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spokenwords wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:18 pm
still curious how the team car knew he had a flat. I read that the car had just been allowed in the gap but I dont remember seeing any sort of communication from Remco. Did he flat right in front of them (the luckiest unlucky flat ever)? Was he on tubulars and rode it flat for a while? The coverage kinda sucked though so maybe missed something. As for coverage, I dont need to keep seeing the French attractions on the last laps of the race.

Two Afghani sisters off the front together in the womens RR. Pretty awesome.
I watched Peacock coverage and they showed a replay that showed Remco signaling with his hand up sometime prior to when he dismounted.

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spokenwords wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:18 pm
still curious how the team car knew he had a flat. I read that the car had just been allowed in the gap but I dont remember seeing any sort of communication from Remco. Did he flat right in front of them (the luckiest unlucky flat ever)? Was he on tubulars and rode it flat for a while? The coverage kinda sucked though so maybe missed something. As for coverage, I dont need to keep seeing the French attractions on the last laps of the race.

Two Afghani sisters off the front together in the womens RR. Pretty awesome.
I think he got extremely lucky... he had pulled out a lead of 1:30, so the car had just been allowed into the gap. As he came into the Louvre gardens section, he was motioning... the US TV announcers thought he was celebrating, like waving to the crowd, but now in hindsight, he was clearly motioning that he had a flat.. the TV coverage cut to an aerial shot, just as he was motioning... then it came back to him as he was getting off his bike. There's no radios so he just got so lucky that the car had been allowed through and they same him and got the spare bike quickly.

I also think the french rider had already kind of resigned that Remco was gone... so he wasn't pushing 100%. I think he was saving a bit, just in case the folowers caught him... again, no radios, so he doesn't know what happened in front and he doesn't actually know how close the chasers are behind him. It very easy if you're in that position and you think Remco is gone up the road... to be saving some, just in case the guys behind you run you down, so you have something for a last surge.

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by EtoDemerzel

Womens race was thrilling. absolute rollercoaster
Faulkner I thought for sure was getting worked by Kopecky but she made THE move to win. Pure class win. She chopped most of the time off on the climb with Kopecky hanging on.

Had Georgi made the decisive move w/ Deignan, Vos and Vas - that would have been the three medals. Vos Vas and Georgi would have held off Faulkner and Kopecky.

Vas deserved that bronze but that's racing.

It was a great race!

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by Requiem84

Much better race than the mens race!

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by Lelandjt

I have to say, I prefer race radios. It's just better racing when the riders know what the spectators know.

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by maquisard

I think no communication is a bad idea, if they want to remove the 'remote control rider' element then they shouls have a single broadcast channel that all riders can listen to covering the current race situation/splits. course safety etc.

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by tymon_tm

Faulkner was not only the strongest (or was she) but definitely the smartest. had there been radios it all would've played out differently. all that explosiveness and racing like their lifes depended on it was due to lack of coms - you just can't be sure, can't take it easy at any point, and if you do, you're done.

Paris RRs were amongst the absolute best races i've ever seen
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tymon_tm wrote:Faulkner was not only the strongest (or was she) but definitely the smartest. had there been radios it all would've played out differently. all that explosiveness and racing like their lifes depended on it was due to lack of coms - you just can't be sure, can't take it easy at any point, and if you do, you're done.

Paris RRs were amongst the absolute best races i've ever seen
And just think:

Taylor Knibb had that spot in the RR but gave it up because she didn’t have any mass start experience.


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LeDuke wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:59 pm
tymon_tm wrote:Faulkner was not only the strongest (or was she) but definitely the smartest. had there been radios it all would've played out differently. all that explosiveness and racing like their lifes depended on it was due to lack of coms - you just can't be sure, can't take it easy at any point, and if you do, you're done.

Paris RRs were amongst the absolute best races i've ever seen
And just think:

Taylor Knibb had that spot in the RR but gave it up because she didn’t have any mass start experience.


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It was a quirk of the selection process and she needed to be on the road squad to be TT eligible. USA Cycling would have made her resign her spot in the RR whether she wanted to or not. Same thing happened in 2020/21 with Chloe Woodruff and Erin Huck.
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by tymon_tm

so when you design several laps in a crowded downtown after few hours of racing, wouldn't it be smart and just humane to put a toilet for riders, for instance somewhere in the feed zone area?

https://x.com/ciclismoliquido/status/18 ... w-wideo%2F
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CrankAddictsRich wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:31 pm
...he was motioning... the US TV announcers thought he was celebrating, like waving to the crowd, but now in hindsight, he was clearly motioning that he had a flat..
Yes, the Canadian announcers were convinced he was waving to the crowd. They pretty much didn't figure it out until he rode off on the new bike. I almost threw my coffee at the TV. Thinking of renouncing my Canadian citizenship over the quality of the commentary. How many times can you hear "Lotty" Kopecky before you vomit. And who the hell is Lizzie "Deegan". Must be an up-and-comer new to cycling. And that was the least of it - their attempts at explaining strategy were painful. Odds are the two guys calling the race have never watched a women's pro race. So embarrassing. I would have thought the American broadcasters would have at least known what a hand up means. :noidea:
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tymon_tm wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 11:57 pm
so when you design several laps in a crowded downtown after few hours of racing, wouldn't it be smart and just humane to put a toilet for riders, for instance somewhere in the feed zone area?

https://x.com/ciclismoliquido/status/18 ... w-wideo%2F
That's my new goal in life - to have a massive crowd give me a standing ovation for taking a piss. :D
wheelsONfire wrote: When we ride disc brakes the whole deal of braking is just like a leaving a fart. It happens and then it's over. Nothing planned and nothing to get nervous for.

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by UpFromOne

All of the English announcers/presenters were pretty bad with these Oly road races. Merely stating the obvious for the most part w/ no nuances.

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Mr.Gib wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:04 am
CrankAddictsRich wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:31 pm
...he was motioning... the US TV announcers thought he was celebrating, like waving to the crowd, but now in hindsight, he was clearly motioning that he had a flat..
Yes, the Canadian announcers were convinced he was waving to the crowd. They pretty much didn't figure it out until he rode off on the new bike. I almost threw my coffee at the TV. Thinking of renouncing my Canadian citizenship over the quality of the commentary. How many times can you hear "Lotty" Kopecky before you vomit. And who the hell is Lizzie "Deegan". Must be an up-and-comer new to cycling. And that was the least of it - their attempts at explaining strategy were painful. Odds are the two guys calling the race have never watched a women's pro race. So embarrassing. I would have thought the American broadcasters would have at least known what a hand up means. :noidea:
US announcers are notoriously horrible... I posted seevral complaints on twitter about peacock cancelling the world feed for the TDF. The US announcers always want to explain cycling as if the audiance has never seen it. I'm sorry, but anyone watching these events from the US have purposely searched them out.

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by spokenwords

The announcers were terrible. I never thought in my wildest dreams I would say this but...Im glad Bob Roll was there to correct a lot of stuff. Thats just how bad it was. Im sure these people are getting paid pretty well, or at least well enough, that they could pull in some legit announcers. Having said that, the camera feeds during the racing, TT included, were terrible. TT was tough because they went off with small gaps but the road races were terrible too. I suppose the womens race was slightly better but then again maybe I expected it to be bad.
GB is gonna be strong on the track. Looking forward to the womens team pursuit!
also, why not have cameras on each team car during the TT's and drones for every key rider, or at least key section.
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