What do you think about black inc 48/58 rims?

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Mocs123
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by Mocs123

They certainly look like a great wheel options and crazy lightweight. I wonder if they're made by Farsports, while they don't look identical to any of the Farsports offerings, they certainly look like they could be a custom version of their Hyper lineup.
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aham23 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:26 pm
KalleWirsch wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:24 pm
Is the Black Inc with hooks or hookless?
they are calling them Mini Hooked Rims.
What does this mean technically? Can you ride them with normal clincher tires or do you need special tires for the usage at hookless rims with the same rstrictions in pressure?

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by Nickldn

KalleWirsch wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:34 pm
aham23 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:26 pm
KalleWirsch wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:24 pm
Is the Black Inc with hooks or hookless?
they are calling them Mini Hooked Rims.
What does this mean technically? Can you ride them with normal clincher tires or do you need special tires for the usage at hookless rims with the same rstrictions in pressure?
For me the main question is do the mini hooks retain the tyre on the rim as well as normal 'large' hooks in the event of a blowout/puncture. Does this get tested?

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by wwnero

Not really sure what mini hooks mean or the cost difference vs regular hooked wheels but maybe this is an in between solution to save money while also saving themselves from having to develop a new rim if hookless gets banned by the UCI?

aham23
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by aham23

Well I was told they would ship 3/15. No notice but they showed up at my front door today!

XDR Setup puts them over 1300g I guess? They look amazing. Not sure where this mini hook is though?

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by Noctiluxx

aham23 wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:15 pm
Well I was told they would ship 3/15. No notice but they showed up at my front door today!

XDR Setup puts them over 1300g I guess? They look amazing. Not sure where this mini hook is though?


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Mine are coming attached to an Ostro in about a month. The 1270 gram weight quoted for the wheels is for Shimano HG. I'll weight mine (Shimano) and post it here.
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aham23 wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:15 pm
XDR Setup puts them over 1300g I guess? They look amazing. Not sure where this mini hook is though?
Generally the XDR body is the lighter of the two.

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by SimonWang

aham23 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:03 pm
I have a set of these 48/58 on order that are suppose to ship out 3/15. I have not seen any real reviews or user feedback anywhere. I will let you all know!
Thank you, I would especially like to know how it works when climbing.

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by aham23

Easiest RIM to mount a Conti race tire to that I have owned. Did not spend all morning fighting with it!
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by skarre

Does anyone know the POE for the rear hub? I searched online but could not find any information regarding points of engagement.

SimonWang
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by SimonWang

Hello

Any updates on your experience?

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by cpark

SimonWang wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:19 pm
Regarding the new black inc wheels 48/58, I would like to hear your opinions.

I think the overall specs are pretty good, lightweight, aerodynamic, reasonably priced,

But I have never used rims produced by black inc. I would like to ask you whether 48/58 rims are a good product?

The following are the specifications of 48/58 rims


Spokes 20 Black Inc Straightpull Aero Carbon Spokes
Spoke Pattern 2x/2x
Nipples Black Inc Oversize Internal Alloy Type
Versions Shimano / XDR
Weights Shimano: 1270g (Front: 560g, Rear: 710g)
Compatibility Shimano HG 10/11 speed cassette and Sram 10/11 cassette
SRAM 12 speed cassette
Front Hub/ Rear Hub HU-08 High Flange Alloy Body WT
Hub Width Front: 100mm / Rear: 142mm
Axle Type 12mm Thru Axle
Bearings Black Inc + CeramicSpeed WT
Brake Interface Center Lock
Freehub Compatibility Shimano / SRAM XDR
ASTM Classification Level 1
Material High Modulus Carbon Fiber (T-700/ T-800/ T-1100)
Finish UD matte glossy clearcoat
Type Interface Tubeless and Clincher (inner tube)
Type Compatibility Tubeless / Tubeless Ready / Clincher
Recommended Tyre Size 700c x 28mm
Rim Height Front: 48mm / Rear: 58mm
Rim Width Internal: 23mm / External: 29mm
Rim Decals Water Transfer Decals with High Polish Glossy Clear Coat Finish
Assembly The 48|58 wheels are hand built by artisanal wheel builders and inspected with the latest electronic machines. This process guarantees that every single wheel's quality, performance and reliability.

Pro:
Super light
Super bling factor

Con:
2 year limited warrnty
220 lbs weight limit
20 carbon spokes
Narrow external width

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cpark wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:46 pm

Con:
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220 lbs weight limit
20 carbon spokes
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If you weighed 220 lbs, would you even think of riding a sub 1300 gram wheelset. At 50 lbs less I start to worry at 1300 grams.

As for 20 carbon spokes, how is that a con? Isn't that the point of these wheels? - the main distinguishing feature?
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D0N0TR0N3000
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by D0N0TR0N3000

Any update with these wheels? Have an Ostro VAM coming hopefully in a month and there is still not a lot of info or feedback re these wheels.

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by D0N0TR0N3000

Also curious about POE

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