Princeton Wake 6560 Evolution vs Zipp NSW454 vs ENVE 4.5

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slowcyclist
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by slowcyclist

Trying to decide wheel between these 3. Could you please suggest which one is better?

Terrein - Mostly flat and some rolling. Occasionally will be used in mountains too.

I went through articale on 6560 Evolution, did anyone have those and how do you rate them?

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by req110

Only Princetons are hooks.

Others are hookless. I consider hookless as a blindBranch in road cycling.

I would search somewhere else.
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by Rashidsq

I have the princetons in mate black and tactic hubs weighing 1395 very stable in crosswinds for deep wheels


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slowcyclist
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by slowcyclist

Yes only Princetons are hooks and they dont need the tape to go for tubeless.

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Rashidsq wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:05 pm
I have the princetons in mate black and tactic hubs weighing 1395 very stable in crosswinds for deep wheels
Do you know, or anyone else, what the difference is between the Tactitc Racing TR1 and TR2 hubs? The TR2 arent even mentioned on the Tactic Racing website yet. Apparently 100g, according to this handy list from bikerumor
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by thebikemanguy

The Zipps feel significantly less appealing after they went through their stealthy weight increase last year; they no longer seem so bleeding-edge in that regard (plus, if we're nitpicking, their claimed weight is without rim tape and with the lighter XDR freehub - no idea what freehub the others use, but Princeton doesn't need rim tape so that saves you 10-15g).

Not sure about the TR02 hubs. I'd email Princeton to inquire, they're usually pretty responsive. Presumably a lower-spec version of the TR01 hub, but not sure how that's achieved.

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by RDY

TR02 are cheap hubs sold for a huge markup. They're ridiculously heavy at this price. Only the freehub / engagement is Nonplus, rather than the whole thing being designed and made by them re: TR01. I dunno which OEM designed and made the TR02. Not that the TR01 and Princeton in general aren't vastly overpriced.

If you're riding in the mountains I'd choose something shallower anyway. You'd have to limit rides to only very still days. Crosswinds on deep wheels on alpine descents are no bueno.

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RDY wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:54 am
TR02 are cheap hubs sold for a huge markup. They're ridiculously heavy at this price. Only the freehub / engagement is Nonplus, rather than the whole thing being designed and made by them re: TR01. I dunno which OEM designed and made the TR02. Not that the TR01 and Princeton in general aren't vastly overpriced.

If you're riding in the mountains I'd choose something shallower anyway. You'd have to limit rides to only very still days. Crosswinds on deep wheels on alpine descents are no bueno.
I ride the first gen Wake 6560 in the alps all the time. No crosswind issues (I weight 70~74kg though)

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by UltraMaraFun

How about the Bontrager RSL51 wheelset? Light for the 51mm depth, wide (internal width 23mm) and hooked rims.
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by Wildh

I'd like to see independent testing on the wakes. Their data is impressive, but so much so that you almost feel it's a fluke.

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Just took delivery of my new wake 6560 evolution with tactic tr01 hubs. They replaced 303 FC, they are full gear 46 lighter than zipps. Huge performance upgrade in flats, climbings and descents. No cross wind issue at all (today winds 30 km/h)

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by UrgentDelay

I''m in the same boat. ENVE 4.5s and Rovals test better in aero than ZIPPs and Princetons.
You can look up the data here, Hunts are also a worthy consideration: https://www.huntbikewheels.com/products ... c-wheelset

As they differ in internal width you must also take tire clearance into account. This alone might push me towards Rovals Rapide CLX II.

Data on clearance here: viewtopic.php?f=132&t=174930
Data on wheelsets here: viewtopic.php?f=132&t=174928&p=1853604#p1853604

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No hookless anymore for me @urgentdellay, just a week ago my friend had a nasty accident because of them

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No hookless anymore for me @urgentdellay, just a week ago my friend had a nasty accident because of them

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DogmaHiFi wrote:No hookless anymore for me @urgentdellay, just a week ago my friend had a nasty accident because of them
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