Any better climbing wheel set than Campy Hyperon
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I am very close to pulling the trigger on a pair of Campagnolo Hyperon Ultra for $2800 at 1240g for 37mm.
I like that it is still a deep-ish type of wheel, and having an Italian bike with Campy groupset, well, there is some obvious aestethics and personal preferences at play
That said, if you guys tell me that there's a better bang for my buck, especially an option that would save significant weight compare to the Hyperon for a similar price, I am all ears.
Requirements:
- Campy hub compatibility (11s/12s)
- $2800 max budget (would consider tubular for sub $2000)
- Ideally Tubeless (would consider tubular)
- 21-23mm inner rim with
- 35mm deep at least, 37 to 42mm prefered
- sub 1250g, that's my most important criteria, anything that would save significant weight is the winner.
I was also considering building a ~1080g 35mm deep wheelset with Duke rim and extralite hubs for ~$2100 but won't go back to Europe until CHristmas at that point, and can't find any ways to have the rim shipped to the US...
I like that it is still a deep-ish type of wheel, and having an Italian bike with Campy groupset, well, there is some obvious aestethics and personal preferences at play
That said, if you guys tell me that there's a better bang for my buck, especially an option that would save significant weight compare to the Hyperon for a similar price, I am all ears.
Requirements:
- Campy hub compatibility (11s/12s)
- $2800 max budget (would consider tubular for sub $2000)
- Ideally Tubeless (would consider tubular)
- 21-23mm inner rim with
- 35mm deep at least, 37 to 42mm prefered
- sub 1250g, that's my most important criteria, anything that would save significant weight is the winner.
I was also considering building a ~1080g 35mm deep wheelset with Duke rim and extralite hubs for ~$2100 but won't go back to Europe until CHristmas at that point, and can't find any ways to have the rim shipped to the US...
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The Campy freehub is of course going to limit your options. If you were willing to let that requirement go, then you could have a lighter pair of wheels for less than half the cost: https://www.wheelsfar.com/ultralight-fe ... p0102.html
The FSD35CM-27T-SUDs are 35mm deep, modern (blunt/wide) rim design, 22mm internal, tubeless ready without tape. Advertised at 1070g for the pair. Mine came in at 1099g: viewtopic.php?f=113&t=156164&start=1140#p1722692
The FSD35CM-27T-SUDs are 35mm deep, modern (blunt/wide) rim design, 22mm internal, tubeless ready without tape. Advertised at 1070g for the pair. Mine came in at 1099g: viewtopic.php?f=113&t=156164&start=1140#p1722692
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Princeton Carbonworks ALTA 3532 might be a good option for you (although ~3mm shallower). 1157g with their Tactic hubs. Less than 1000g if you want tubs.
Look, for climbing stiffness is king and usually lighter means the opposite of stiffer. So yes, easy to find light wheels, but much harder to find light wheels good for climbing.
These are two different things.
These are two different things.
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If I was doing a "price no object" build myself, I would be taking a long hard look at the Mavic Cosmic Ultimate UST Disc wheelset. Maybe a hair heavier than the Campy Hyperion, but quite a bit deeper (a more modern all-rounder at 45mm deep) and quite likely stiffer, due to the construction methods.
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did you read the OP? Those Mavics cost like 75% more than the $2800 max budget.CyclingGiraffe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:43 pmIf I was doing a "price no object" build myself, I would be taking a long hard look at the Mavic Cosmic Ultimate UST Disc wheelset. Maybe a hair heavier than the Campy Hyperion, but quite a bit deeper (a more modern all-rounder at 45mm deep) and quite likely stiffer, due to the construction methods.
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Maybe comparing list prices to retail. $2800 is over $1200 off the Hyperon's list price in the US (where I believe OP is located, based on his other posts), so OP likely isn't limiting himself to purchasing from a US-based brick and mortar retailer. Some online vendors actually list the Mavic Cosmic Ultimate USTs for less than the Hyperons, if a bit over the $2800 "max." Not sure what stock or availability is, but might be worth checking out if looking broadly for a better climbing wheel set than Campy Hyperon.garbageman wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 12:03 amdid you read the OP? Those Mavics cost like 75% more than the $2800 max budget.CyclingGiraffe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:43 pmIf I was doing a "price no object" build myself, I would be taking a long hard look at the Mavic Cosmic Ultimate UST Disc wheelset. Maybe a hair heavier than the Campy Hyperion, but quite a bit deeper (a more modern all-rounder at 45mm deep) and quite likely stiffer, due to the construction methods.
If you're going to ignore budget, then just get these https://www.syncros.com/us/en/product/s ... 1310135850
EVO1 | 5.37kg
EVO3 (sold) | 6.51kg
EVO4 | build thread coming soon
S5 Disc
SystemSix (sold) | 8.01kg
P5 Disc | heavy but fast
EVO3 (sold) | 6.51kg
EVO4 | build thread coming soon
S5 Disc
SystemSix (sold) | 8.01kg
P5 Disc | heavy but fast
Those were also part of my list. Any info on the stiffness of those? I like that they are decently deep actually at almost 40mm
Litespeed Gravel Ultimate : https://tinyurl.com/zvxxy8zk
Wilier “Cento Ramato“ : https://tinyurl.com/29vs8vre
#RETIRED# Lynskey “the Do-it-all Helix” :https://tinyurl.com/bdmb5y24
Wilier “Cento Ramato“ : https://tinyurl.com/29vs8vre
#RETIRED# Lynskey “the Do-it-all Helix” :https://tinyurl.com/bdmb5y24
maybe try a set of wheels from a BlackCat, I use a set of aluminum wheels with onyx hubs myself in Campagnolo version but I have no reservations about the workmanship.Yoln wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:48 pmI am very close to pulling the trigger on a pair of Campagnolo Hyperon Ultra for $2800 at 1240g for 37mm.
I like that it is still a deep-ish type of wheel, and having an Italian bike with Campy groupset, well, there is some obvious aestethics and personal preferences at play
That said, if you guys tell me that there's a better bang for my buck, especially an option that would save significant weight compare to the Hyperon for a similar price, I am all ears.
Requirements:
- Campy hub compatibility (11s/12s)
- $2800 max budget (would consider tubular for sub $2000)
- Ideally Tubeless (would consider tubular)
- 21-23mm inner rim with
- 35mm deep at least, 37 to 42mm prefered
- sub 1250g, that's my most important criteria, anything that would save significant weight is the winner.
I was also considering building a ~1080g 35mm deep wheelset with Duke rim and extralite hubs for ~$2100 but won't go back to Europe until CHristmas at that point, and can't find any ways to have the rim shipped to the US...
https://carbonone.pl/en_US/index
And here you also get carbon spokes for excellent stiffness.
maybe try a set of wheels from a BlackCat, I use a set of aluminum wheels with onyx hubs myself in Campagnolo version but I have no reservations about the workmanship.Yoln wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:48 pmI am very close to pulling the trigger on a pair of Campagnolo Hyperon Ultra for $2800 at 1240g for 37mm.
I like that it is still a deep-ish type of wheel, and having an Italian bike with Campy groupset, well, there is some obvious aestethics and personal preferences at play
That said, if you guys tell me that there's a better bang for my buck, especially an option that would save significant weight compare to the Hyperon for a similar price, I am all ears.
Requirements:
- Campy hub compatibility (11s/12s)
- $2800 max budget (would consider tubular for sub $2000)
- Ideally Tubeless (would consider tubular)
- 21-23mm inner rim with
- 35mm deep at least, 37 to 42mm prefered
- sub 1250g, that's my most important criteria, anything that would save significant weight is the winner.
I was also considering building a ~1080g 35mm deep wheelset with Duke rim and extralite hubs for ~$2100 but won't go back to Europe until CHristmas at that point, and can't find any ways to have the rim shipped to the US...
https://carbonone.pl/en_US/index
And here you also get carbon spokes for excellent stiffness.
Thanks, but their options looks a bit more heavy than competition.Shmitt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 5:34 pmmaybe try a set of wheels from a BlackCat, I use a set of aluminum wheels with onyx hubs myself in Campagnolo version but I have no reservations about the workmanship.Yoln wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:48 pmI am very close to pulling the trigger on a pair of Campagnolo Hyperon Ultra for $2800 at 1240g for 37mm.
I like that it is still a deep-ish type of wheel, and having an Italian bike with Campy groupset, well, there is some obvious aestethics and personal preferences at play
That said, if you guys tell me that there's a better bang for my buck, especially an option that would save significant weight compare to the Hyperon for a similar price, I am all ears.
Requirements:
- Campy hub compatibility (11s/12s)
- $2800 max budget (would consider tubular for sub $2000)
- Ideally Tubeless (would consider tubular)
- 21-23mm inner rim with
- 35mm deep at least, 37 to 42mm prefered
- sub 1250g, that's my most important criteria, anything that would save significant weight is the winner.
I was also considering building a ~1080g 35mm deep wheelset with Duke rim and extralite hubs for ~$2100 but won't go back to Europe until CHristmas at that point, and can't find any ways to have the rim shipped to the US...
https://carbonone.pl/en_US/index
And here you also get carbon spokes for excellent stiffness.
Very close to pulling the trigger on the Extralite. Would love to find a better spokes options though. And unsure about their stifness
Litespeed Gravel Ultimate : https://tinyurl.com/zvxxy8zk
Wilier “Cento Ramato“ : https://tinyurl.com/29vs8vre
#RETIRED# Lynskey “the Do-it-all Helix” :https://tinyurl.com/bdmb5y24
Wilier “Cento Ramato“ : https://tinyurl.com/29vs8vre
#RETIRED# Lynskey “the Do-it-all Helix” :https://tinyurl.com/bdmb5y24
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From what I can learn from the wheel builder himself, who uses it on a daily basis and compares it to other sets that he has assembled himself, he is convinced of absolute stiffness, and the weight of the rims is dictated by their durability.Yoln wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:27 pmThanks, but their options looks a bit more heavy than competition.Shmitt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 5:34 pmmaybe try a set of wheels from a BlackCat, I use a set of aluminum wheels with onyx hubs myself in Campagnolo version but I have no reservations about the workmanship.Yoln wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:48 pmI am very close to pulling the trigger on a pair of Campagnolo Hyperon Ultra for $2800 at 1240g for 37mm.
I like that it is still a deep-ish type of wheel, and having an Italian bike with Campy groupset, well, there is some obvious aestethics and personal preferences at play
That said, if you guys tell me that there's a better bang for my buck, especially an option that would save significant weight compare to the Hyperon for a similar price, I am all ears.
Requirements:
- Campy hub compatibility (11s/12s)
- $2800 max budget (would consider tubular for sub $2000)
- Ideally Tubeless (would consider tubular)
- 21-23mm inner rim with
- 35mm deep at least, 37 to 42mm prefered
- sub 1250g, that's my most important criteria, anything that would save significant weight is the winner.
I was also considering building a ~1080g 35mm deep wheelset with Duke rim and extralite hubs for ~$2100 but won't go back to Europe until CHristmas at that point, and can't find any ways to have the rim shipped to the US...
https://carbonone.pl/en_US/index
And here you also get carbon spokes for excellent stiffness.
Very close to pulling the trigger on the Extralite. Would love to find a better spokes options though. And unsure about their stifness
Hence, there may be a difference in weight between Carbonone and extralite.
Personally, I'd prefer stiffer and more durable than a little lighter.
Of course, the choice is yours.
Carbon spokes is the future of wheels.