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bmrk
Posts: 185
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:03 pm

by bmrk

Wheel/Rim Manufaturer: Giant
Model: SLR 1 42 DISC
Rim Inner Width: 19.4mm
Rim Outer Width: 23mm
Tires: SCHWALBE PRO ONE TLE 25mm @ 72.5 PSI - No issues, CADEX RACE TUBELESS 25mm @ 72.5 PSI - No issues
Rider weight: 61kg
Running time: 1.5 years

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darrydonds
Posts: 192
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:04 am

by darrydonds

Replaced rear stock CADEX tire with Pro One 25mm, after about 6000km (the rubber casing of the CADEX was starting to peel off). Pro One is more comfy and rolls better. Very pleased. However, over time it starts weeping moisture (from the sealant) like crazy. Patches of moisture all over the tire. It looks horrible. I was beginning to question if it would impair the effectiveness of the sealant in case of a puncture. But earlier this month, I got a puncture and the sealant did its job (I noticed only near the end of my ride) and allowed me to ride home. So, it lasted about 5600km (probably more if I haven't gone on that disgusting road full of garbage on that last ride). I have now installed a new one. Let's see if this one also weeps. Ordered Michelin Power Cup to try next.

The front CADEX seems indestructible. At least 12000km and counting.

I'm a similarly light rider.

currentsea
Posts: 50
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:49 pm

by currentsea

darrydonds wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:59 am
Replaced rear stock CADEX tire with Pro One 25mm, after about 6000km (the rubber casing of the CADEX was starting to peel off). Pro One is more comfy and rolls better. Very pleased. However, over time it starts weeping moisture (from the sealant) like crazy. Patches of moisture all over the tire. It looks horrible. I was beginning to question if it would impair the effectiveness of the sealant in case of a puncture. But earlier this month, I got a puncture and the sealant did its job (I noticed only near the end of my ride) and allowed me to ride home. So, it lasted about 5600km (probably more if I haven't gone on that disgusting road full of garbage on that last ride). I have now installed a new one. Let's see if this one also weeps. Ordered Michelin Power Cup to try next.

The front CADEX seems indestructible. At least 12000km and counting.

I'm a similarly light rider.
I had the weeping tyres issue on my old GP5KS TR's and it turns out that's a result of not shaking your sealant properly before installation. Once I gave my sealant a vigourous shake before installing the weeping problem disappeared.

Pyotrump
Posts: 133
Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:01 pm

by Pyotrump

Wheel/Rim Manufaturer: Light bicycle
Model: AR25 with Bitex hubs
Rim Inner Width: 24mm
Rim Outer Width: 29.2mm
Tires: Rene Herse Snoqualmie pass @ 50 PSI - exploded just after being mounted, Maxxis Velocita 40mm @ 55 PSI - No issues after 200km
Rider weight: 82
Running time: 0.3 years

okx
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:06 am

by okx

Wheel/Rim Manufaturer: Zipp
Model: 303fc (2021)
Rim Inner Width: 25mm
Rim Outer Width: 30mm
Tires: s-wokrs Turbo RapidAir 2Bliss Ready 28mm (no issues)
Rider weight: 52kg
Running time: 3k km

HBike
Posts: 190
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:22 pm

by HBike

okx wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 8:49 pm
Wheel/Rim Manufaturer: Zipp
Model: 303fc (2021)
Rim Inner Width: 25mm
Rim Outer Width: 30mm
Tires: s-wokrs Turbo RapidAir 2Bliss Ready 28mm (no issues)
Rider weight: 52kg
Running time: 3k km
May I ask about the mounted tire width of your 28c on the 303fc?

okx
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:06 am

by okx

HBike wrote:
Mon May 08, 2023 8:48 pm
okx wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 8:49 pm
Wheel/Rim Manufaturer: Zipp
Model: 303fc (2021)
Rim Inner Width: 25mm
Rim Outer Width: 30mm
Tires: s-wokrs Turbo RapidAir 2Bliss Ready 28mm (no issues)
Rider weight: 52kg
Running time: 3k km
May I ask about the mounted tire width of your 28c on the 303fc?
Both tyres come at around 30mm after mounting and after some riding around 30,2-3 mm
F: 3,7bar R:3,9bar

HBike
Posts: 190
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:22 pm

by HBike

okx wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 12:47 pm
HBike wrote:
Mon May 08, 2023 8:48 pm
okx wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 8:49 pm
Wheel/Rim Manufaturer: Zipp
Model: 303fc (2021)
Rim Inner Width: 25mm
Rim Outer Width: 30mm
Tires: s-wokrs Turbo RapidAir 2Bliss Ready 28mm (no issues)
Rider weight: 52kg
Running time: 3k km
May I ask about the mounted tire width of your 28c on the 303fc?
Both tyres come at around 30mm after mounting and after some riding around 30,2-3 mm
F: 3,7bar R:3,9bar
Thank you!

skinnybex
Posts: 256
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:07 pm

by skinnybex

Wheel/Rim Manufaturer: Zipp
Model: 404 FC 2022
Rim Inner Width: 23
Rim Outer Width: 28
Tires: Veloflex Race 25mm - Veloflex Evo 28mm - GP5k S TR 28mm - Panaracer Agliest 28mm - Corsa Next 28mm - Enve SES 27mm - Pirelli Race TLR 28mm
Rider weight: 74kg
Running time: 1.5 years on 2 wheelsets with these varios tires mounted - No issues and the Veloflex Race 25mm have been the best
PSI is usually between 55-60 psi front and 58-63 psi rear
23’ Cervelo Soloist / 6.88kg - 1x Crit Bike
22' Cervelo R5 / 6.35kg - Climbing Bike
22' Cervelo Caledonia 5 / 7.55kg - Travel Bike
21' Cervelo Aspero / 8.06kg - Gravel Travel Bike
23' Cervelo Aspero 5 / 8.25kg - Gravel Race Bike

BBres
Posts: 282
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:20 pm

by BBres

Wheel/Rim Manufaturer: Giant
Model: SLR 1 42 DISC
Rim Inner Width: 19.4mm
Rim Outer Width: 23mm
Tires:
SCHWALBE PRO ONE TLE 25mm, CADEX RACE TUBELESS 25mm, GP5000 S TR - all up to 7 Bar (but normally around 6 - 6,5) No issues at all
Rider weight: 63-65 kg depending on the time of the year
Running time: 2,5 years

Great wheelset!

ads
Posts: 190
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:16 pm

by ads

Wheel/Rim Manufaturer: Zipp
Model: 404FC (2021)
Rim Inner Width: 23mm
Rim Outer Width: 28mm
Tyres: Schwalbe Pro One 28mm – punctured in the first 20km so ended in the bin. thought the branding appliation was poor and tyres generally looked cheap.
Tyres: GP5000 TL 28mm – punctured in the first 50km so ended in the bin.
Tyres: Pirelli PZero 28mm – bomb proof compared to the other two! felt good but def slower than the others (if you don't take pissing around with plugs by side of the road)
Rider weight: 78kg
Running time: 1.5 years but only 3 seasons as i'm on the turbo for proper winter

to be fair the schwalbe and contis punctured in a cycle lane in london from glass. could've cut any tyre i suppose but never had a problem with the PZeros.

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bmrk
Posts: 185
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:03 pm

by bmrk

BBres wrote:
Thu May 11, 2023 7:32 am
Wheel/Rim Manufaturer: Giant
Model: SLR 1 42 DISC
Rim Inner Width: 19.4mm
Rim Outer Width: 23mm
Tires:
SCHWALBE PRO ONE TLE 25mm, CADEX RACE TUBELESS 25mm, GP5000 S TR - all up to 7 Bar (but normally around 6 - 6,5) No issues at all
Rider weight: 63-65 kg depending on the time of the year
Running time: 2,5 years

Great wheelset!
The pressure is not too high for this wheelset? I have this wheels and normally use this https://www.giant-bicycles.com/global/tire-pressure

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