Fastest 60mm wheels at the moment?

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CustomMetal wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:21 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:49 pm
Custom Rhino 6.7 🤔
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PS: the difference in watts between sets of this depth is very minuscule. It has has to work for you (the tires you want to use, stability as much as you need etc).
All the mentioned ones (Rapide CLX, Bontrager 62, DT62) are pretty great.
Nice! Your ones? Hear he builds a nice one
Correct. Very nice wheels. DT Aerolite are pretty amazing as a spoke choice also.
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Good to hear! Enjoy them 🙏 on the tarmac I presume
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FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:49 pm
Custom Rhino 6.7 🤔
Image

PS: the difference in watts between sets of this depth is very minuscule. It has has to work for you (the tires you want to use, stability as much as you need etc).
All the mentioned ones (Rapide CLX, Bontrager 62, DT62) are pretty great.
What hubs are those? damn it a great weight.

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LuigiG wrote:
Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:34 pm
Nejmann wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:28 pm
Hey guys.

Looking for a pair of new wheels.

So what is the fastest 60mm ish wheels at the moment? Looking to put 28mm tires on them.

Is it dt swiss, shimano c60, zipp, swissside, princeton, bontrager rsl, enve or another?


:noidea: :thumbup: Help a brother out :mrgreen:
https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/wi ... e-fastest/
Thanks!

Not really a big difference... Was leaning towards Bontrager RSl (as i'm riding a trek) or Shimano Dura Ace C60.. Those DT swiss a impressive, but the stickers/logo sucks.. Got them on my mtb, they have been flawless..

One thing I can say.. HED no thanks.. Worst quality ever.. lol

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Nejmann wrote:
Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:52 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:49 pm
Custom Rhino 6.7 🤔
Image

PS: the difference in watts between sets of this depth is very minuscule. It has has to work for you (the tires you want to use, stability as much as you need etc).
All the mentioned ones (Rapide CLX, Bontrager 62, DT62) are pretty great.
What hubs are those? damn it a great weight.
Tactic
Allegra- Steel Lugs TBC
Aurelia- Stainless All Road 8.5kg
Bertha- TT 9.8kg
Perdita- Ti Turbo bike 8kg
Serenity- Ti Gravel 9.5kg/8.9kg
Verity- Ti Aero 8.2kg
Alya- Ti Climbing TBC

All weights with pedals,cages & garmin mount

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Nejmann
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LuigiG wrote:
Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:27 pm
Nejmann wrote:
Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:56 pm
LuigiG wrote:
Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:34 pm
Nejmann wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:28 pm
Hey guys.

Looking for a pair of new wheels.

So what is the fastest 60mm ish wheels at the moment? Looking to put 28mm tires on them.

Is it dt swiss, shimano c60, zipp, swissside, princeton, bontrager rsl, enve or another?


:noidea: :thumbup: Help a brother out :mrgreen:
https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/wi ... e-fastest/
Thanks!

Not really a big difference... Was leaning towards Bontrager RSl (as i'm riding a trek) or Shimano Dura Ace C60.. Those DT swiss a impressive, but the stickers/logo sucks.. Got them on my mtb, they have been flawless..

One thing I can say.. HED no thanks.. Worst quality ever.. lol
According to the wind tunnel test DT are the ones...Shimano not at all....at the end you get what you like to see on your bike...Bontrager match the trek...I bet you have Sram groupset :-)...nobody in here will be able to feel the differences on those wheels... ride and have fun
haha no shimano ;)

You are so right.. Can't feel it.. So maybe just buy for the looks.. That narrows it down to Enve, Bontrager or Shimano..

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LuigiG wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:07 pm
Roadrocket wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:49 pm
WTO 60 actually weren't tested fastest. If I remember right they were one of the slowest wheels in test.
Link to the test...
Can´t find the Tour Mag test yet, but you can try yourself.
Anyway I stored the data from the test.
Here you go:

Wheel model / aero drag / stability (lower is better) / stiffness (higher is better) / wheelset weight

DT Swiss ARC1100 62 / 216.1W / 6. / 54-49 / 1698g
Shimano Dura Ace C60 / 216.3W / 6. / 55-46 / 1638g
Campagnolo Bora WTO 60 / 218.1W / 9. / 50-49 / 1540g
Vision Metron 60 / 217.4W / 8. / 42-39 / 1652g
Zipp 454 NSW / 217.3W / 6. / 48-44 / 1380g
Bontrager RSL 62 / 216.4W / 4. / 55-44 / 1538g

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by Nickldn

Roadrocket wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:06 pm
LuigiG wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:07 pm
Roadrocket wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:49 pm
WTO 60 actually weren't tested fastest. If I remember right they were one of the slowest wheels in test.
Link to the test...
Can´t find the Tour Mag test yet, but you can try yourself.
Anyway I stored the data from the test.
Here you go:

Wheel model / aero drag / stability (lower is better) / stiffness (higher is better) / wheelset weight

DT Swiss ARC1100 62 / 216.1W / 6. / 54-49 / 1698g
Shimano Dura Ace C60 / 216.3W / 6. / 55-46 / 1638g
Campagnolo Bora WTO 60 / 218.1W / 9. / 50-49 / 1540g
Vision Metron 60 / 217.4W / 8. / 42-39 / 1652g
Zipp 454 NSW / 217.3W / 6. / 48-44 / 1380g
Bontrager RSL 62 / 216.4W / 4. / 55-44 / 1538g
The difference from the slowest to the fastest wheelset is less than 1%.

Surely all the aero drag numbers 216.1W to 218.1W are within the tolerance of measurement error for a wind tunnel????

Conclusion: by on price, weight and stiffness, not drag.
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Vitus ZX1 CRS Campy Chorus 12s Bora WTO 45 disk brake wheels Zipp SL70 bars 7.5kg

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Roadrocket
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Wheels were tested at different yaw angles, at 0 yaw there was small difference, but at higher yaw angles there was 10-15W difference between best and worst. I´m not saying you will lose the race on the slower wheels, but there is certainly some difference as well as with aero frames.
For me the RSL 62 would be the winner, remember there is also more things to consider such as stability, weight and stiffness.
Anyway I´d like to see some other wheels tested too.

Nickldn
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Roadrocket wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:26 pm
Wheels were tested at different yaw angles, at 0 yaw there was small difference, but at higher yaw angles there was 10-15W difference between best and worst.
Sail effect then? Hard to test objectively in real life due to wind angle changes, but I'm sure it is measurable in a wind tunnel.
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Vitus ZX1 CRS Campy Chorus 12s Bora WTO 45 disk brake wheels Zipp SL70 bars 7.5kg

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And the more effective it sail, the more likely it'll be sensitive to crosswind...

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