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CampagYOLO
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by CampagYOLO

BigBoyND wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:51 am
BikeTyson wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:12 pm
GP5000 TL 28: 289g, 296g
GP5000 S TR 28: 278g, 287g
If this is true, then the S TR is a downgrade from the TL!

S TR is supposed to be 50g lighter according to Conti. BRR measured them as 40g different im 25mm size. But you have a TL that is just 2g more than an S TR, wirh much better puncture protection.
I've fitted so many tubeless tyres and I found the TL's were the hardest I've ever found to fit and then really hard to seat.

In comparison the S TR's fit on several different rims with only hands and inflate each time with a track pump.

That alone is a significant upgrade for me.

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BigBoyND
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by BigBoyND

CampagYOLO wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:18 pm
BigBoyND wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:51 am
BikeTyson wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:12 pm
GP5000 TL 28: 289g, 296g
GP5000 S TR 28: 278g, 287g
If this is true, then the S TR is a downgrade from the TL!

S TR is supposed to be 50g lighter according to Conti. BRR measured them as 40g different im 25mm size. But you have a TL that is just 2g more than an S TR, wirh much better puncture protection.
I've fitted so many tubeless tyres and I found the TL's were the hardest I've ever found to fit and then really hard to seat.

In comparison the S TR's fit on several different rims with only hands and inflate each time with a track pump.

That alone is a significant upgrade for me.
The bead tightness is completely unrelated to the other properties. They could have loosened the bead and kept the rest the same.

mikehhhhhhh
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Location: UK

by mikehhhhhhh

Just got a new pair of STRs, never bothered weighing my tyres before but this thread made me wonder.

28mm: 278g
30mm: 303g

Both are within 2-3g of claimed weight.

Mocs123
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by Mocs123

My Challenge Criterium RS's crapped the bed today, so I ordered a pair of GP5000 TT TR 28's today. I ordered from Starbike as they had the best price on the seemingly hard to find TT TR. Hopefully the shipping companies do their part as that bike it a paperweight until I get the new tires.
2015 Wilier Zero.7 Rim - 6.37kg
2020 Trek Emonda SLR-7 Disc - 6.86kg
2023 Specialized SL7 - 7.18kg

warthog101
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by warthog101

CampagYOLO wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:18 pm



I've fitted so many tubeless tyres and I found the TL's were the hardest I've ever found to fit and then really hard to seat.

In comparison the S TR's fit on several different rims with only hands and inflate each time with a track pump.

That alone is a significant upgrade for me.
I only used the TLs on one wheelset. Yes tight but went on by hand by making sure the bead was in the low part of the rim bed when getting the last part on. Have one on the front now. Seated with the track pump.

Haven't used S TR. Wont pay that much for a bicycle tyre.

alanyu
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by alanyu

CampagYOLO wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:18 pm
BigBoyND wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:51 am
BikeTyson wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:12 pm
GP5000 TL 28: 289g, 296g
GP5000 S TR 28: 278g, 287g
If this is true, then the S TR is a downgrade from the TL!

S TR is supposed to be 50g lighter according to Conti. BRR measured them as 40g different im 25mm size. But you have a TL that is just 2g more than an S TR, wirh much better puncture protection.
I've fitted so many tubeless tyres and I found the TL's were the hardest I've ever found to fit and then really hard to seat.

In comparison the S TR's fit on several different rims with only hands and inflate each time with a track pump.

That alone is a significant upgrade for me.
I agree 5K TL is the hardest to mount, but it's one of the easiest to seat on my wheel. I even once used a mini pump GM81 seating ot in the garage.

TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

warthog101 wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:54 pm

Haven't used S TR. Wont pay that much for a bicycle tyre.

How much is “that much?” I just bought S TRs for €45 each.

warthog101
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by warthog101

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:24 am
warthog101 wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:54 pm

Haven't used S TR. Wont pay that much for a bicycle tyre.

How much is “that much?” I just bought S TRs for €45 each.
That is a good price! Where from?
Still over $100 AUD here.
They were 130.
For reference when I bought tyres for my Suzuki Swift runabout 70k km ago they were less than that each. Not cheapest either, Michelins.

I no longer race as I am an old fart now. If I did I would pay more I suppose.

Lina
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by Lina

Tires are the single biggest contributor to comfort also. A good well rolling tire makes any bike much more enjoyable to ride than your average garden hose tire.

warthog101
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by warthog101

Lina wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:47 am
Tires are the single biggest contributor to comfort also. A good well rolling tire makes any bike much more enjoyable to ride than your average garden hose tire.
Yeah used Corsa n.ext, GP5kTL, P-zero race, Power road. Whatever I have been able to find at a reasonable price. All tubeless. No "garden hoses".
Have not seen 5kS TR at under 100AUD yet.
Have not looked for a while though as I still have a few tyres in the drawer at home.

cleanneon98
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by cleanneon98

Anyone know why the Transparent S TR is slower than the black?
TREK Madone Gen 7 SLR - 7.5kg
TREK Fuel EX Gen 5 - overbuilt and overweight

BigBoyND
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by BigBoyND

Lina wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:47 am
Tires are the single biggest contributor to comfort also. A good well rolling tire makes any bike much more enjoyable to ride than your average garden hose tire.
This is what made me move away from the S TR

cleanneon98
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by cleanneon98

BigBoyND wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:02 am
Lina wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:47 am
Tires are the single biggest contributor to comfort also. A good well rolling tire makes any bike much more enjoyable to ride than your average garden hose tire.
This is what made me move away from the S TR
What are you using now
TREK Madone Gen 7 SLR - 7.5kg
TREK Fuel EX Gen 5 - overbuilt and overweight

TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

First impressions are huge and unfortunately the GP5K S TR take a couple rides to fully break in.

BigBoyND
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by BigBoyND

cleanneon98 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:24 pm
BigBoyND wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:02 am
Lina wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:47 am
Tires are the single biggest contributor to comfort also. A good well rolling tire makes any bike much more enjoyable to ride than your average garden hose tire.
This is what made me move away from the S TR
What are you using now
Power Cup TLR. Recently got the Tufo Comtura Prima and will try those out when it warms up.

One of my bikes still has well worn S TR and I'll change those when they're dead.

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