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Petz
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by Petz

BigBoyND wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:12 pm
While it's not listed in the table, there is a URL for a 35mm RS. Could be interesting.

https://www.pirelli.com/tyres/en-ww/bik ... -rs/35-622

Too bad BRR jumped the gun on the 35mm non-RS being unavailable, since now it's on a few sites.

Also made me notice that the 32mm RS is actually heavier than the 32mm non-RS, per Pirelli. How did they manage that?
Where did you find the 35mm p zero Race in stock?

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by TobinHatesYou

Petz wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:08 pm

Where did you find the 35mm p zero Race in stock?
It isn’t available. The 35mm P Zero Road TLR is available.

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by BigBoyND

Good catch, my error. Bike Discount does expect stock of 35mm and 40mm in two weeks though.

Hopefully the RS 35mm availability will be better/sooner.

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by Petz

BigBoyND wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:41 am
Good catch, my error. Bike Discount does expect stock of 35mm and 40mm in two weeks though.

Hopefully the RS 35mm availability will be better/sooner.
ok, thanks anyway! I was looking for the race TLR in 35mm for quite a while now but gave up and bought the goodyear f1 eagle r in 35mm just a few days ago ;)
Btw, bike-discount is playing this game since the release of the the new p-zero, always shifting the date for a few weeks.

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by thirdsun

BigBoyND wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:41 am
Bike Discount does expect stock of 35mm and 40mm in two weeks though.
I'm pretty sure they've been pushing that date back for months now. Don't rely on it.
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by cleanneon98

Can anyone comment on the shape of these compared to GP5000? I read a few reviews that mention they blow up more "round" and can lead to sharper handling, I'd be mounting on a 23mm internal rim. Considering the 28mm which should widen out to 30mm after some riding. Want to give the RS tire a try rather than going with Continental again just to experiment.
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by TobinHatesYou

P Zero Race end up pointier than GP5Ks, but that shouldn’t matter much at contemporary riding pressures.

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by cleanneon98

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:55 pm
P Zero Race end up pointier than GP5Ks, but that shouldn’t matter much at contemporary riding pressures.
Thank you! I'm like 95% set on the RS to replace my S TR. Have you used Continentals in the past that you can compare to? Are you happy with your Pirellis?
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cleanneon98 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:58 pm
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:55 pm
P Zero Race end up pointier than GP5Ks, but that shouldn’t matter much at contemporary riding pressures.
Thank you! I'm like 95% set on the RS to replace my S TR. Have you used Continentals in the past that you can compare to? Are you happy with your Pirellis?

I’m talking about the non-RS. I mounted and seated a single RS tire as a test-fit, but took it off immediately and decided to try the new ENVEs first.

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by cleanneon98

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:00 pm
cleanneon98 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:58 pm
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:55 pm
P Zero Race end up pointier than GP5Ks, but that shouldn’t matter much at contemporary riding pressures.
Thank you! I'm like 95% set on the RS to replace my S TR. Have you used Continentals in the past that you can compare to? Are you happy with your Pirellis?

I’m talking about the non-RS. I mounted and seated a single RS tire as a test-fit, but took it off immediately and decided to try the new ENVEs first.
Ah gotcha, reading through I thought you had used the non-RS in the past and was looking for any Pirelli feedback from someone who had actually put miles on them. The RS is super new and I know it's tough to find anyone who has put serious miles on them in the short time they've been available.
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by JayDee81

I am super happy with the non-RS made in Italy and use them on Zipp 404, 23mm inner. They are a bit over 28 mm when I checked. They corner super well and tread durability is great as well. Rode last year's Kitzbuheler radmarathon on them and it was very wet in the first few hours and no problems at all.

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by cleanneon98

Bit the bullet and ordered a pair of 28mm TLR RS tires from Gambacicli at a nice discount. Not sure if I will continue to run my GP5000 STR till they wear more, or just swap them sooner. Hoping they stretch to 30mm after break-in and will give the wheels a bit more aero of a profile than the Continentals at 31mm, while also riding nicer and having a bit more protection. Happy to lose a few watts in RR
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by mhrzip

cleanneon98 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:27 pm
I read a few reviews that mention they blow up more "round" and can lead to sharper handling,
At how many bar/psi?

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by cleanneon98

mhrzip wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:37 pm
cleanneon98 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:27 pm
I read a few reviews that mention they blow up more "round" and can lead to sharper handling,
At how many bar/psi?
https://www.bikeradar.com/reviews/compo ... yre-review

"The tyre inflated to a noteworthy 27.3mm at 80psi/5.5 BAR, one of the narrowest in this test despite the 20mm internal rim width. On paper, it should plump out to at least 28mm given the 28c nominal size, according to the ETRTO.

I also found its profile was slightly more rounded than the Michelin Power Cup TLR, Goodyear Eagle F1 or Continental GP5000 S TR."

Maybe less of an "issue" on wider 23mm-ish wheels. This is also the Race TLR and not the RS, but I assume they're the same.
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by TobinHatesYou

cleanneon98 wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:46 pm

https://www.bikeradar.com/reviews/compo ... yre-review

"The tyre inflated to a noteworthy 27.3mm at 80psi/5.5 BAR, one of the narrowest in this test despite the 20mm internal rim width. On paper, it should plump out to at least 28mm given the 28c nominal size, according to the ETRTO.

I also found its profile was slightly more rounded than the Michelin Power Cup TLR, Goodyear Eagle F1 or Continental GP5000 S TR."

Maybe less of an "issue" on wider 23mm-ish wheels. This is also the Race TLR and not the RS, but I assume they're the same.
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This image is taken directly from that review. That tire is way pointier than any version of the GP5K I've mounted in the last 5.5 years.

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And this is a GP5K AS TR. To me it looks like it has a much more consistent radius than the P Zero Race TLR. BikeRadar has really fallen far since the days with Reuben and Joe.

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