I'd say there's significantly better puncture resistance on the Pirelli. When my Corsa N.EXT's wear out on the winter bike I'll give the Pirelli's a go.Woland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:01 amThe results look practically identical to the Conti Allseason, which is not bad at all. Good to have one more choice in the market.DouglasDDX wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:24 pmReview is up now on BRR with the new speedcore.
Not the fastest tire out there but really good puncture protection
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Rolling resistance slight disappointment given Pirelli's claims, but still good. Grip and puncture resistance absolutely excellent. The weight ... that's a really heavy 28mm race tire. The 32s might be approaching the 400g mark.
If you want puncture resistance and wet grip (all round grip) go Pirelli; if you don't ride in the wet, then get the Challenge Criterium.
Shame they don't do the tan walls above 30mm.
If you want puncture resistance and wet grip (all round grip) go Pirelli; if you don't ride in the wet, then get the Challenge Criterium.
Shame they don't do the tan walls above 30mm.
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Weight ? Sure as it has 3mm thread compared to 2.3 of most others in the same league. So that also contributes to rr. I would love to see tires tested when they are 50% worn or after say 1000km. I'm curious what they will do as soon as Pirelli presents the sl version basically around same thread thickness as the gp5000 tr sRDY wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:53 amRolling resistance slight disappointment given Pirelli's claims, but still good. Grip and puncture resistance absolutely excellent. The weight ... that's a really heavy 28mm race tire. The 32s might be approaching the 400g mark.
If you want puncture resistance and wet grip (all round grip) go Pirelli; if you don't ride in the wet, then get the Challenge Criterium.
Shame they don't do the tan walls above 30mm.
Pirelli claim the tread is identical to the French-made ones, including thickness. Yet the tire is much heavier, and way over its listed (by Pirelli) weight. Something else is going on unless the sample BRR got is an aberration. If the others are similarly porky, they're going to make the 5000 AS look like a relatively light tire in the bigger sizes.wickedstealthy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:16 pmWeight ? Sure as it has 3mm thread compared to 2.3 of most others in the same league. So that also contributes to rr. I would love to see tires tested when they are 50% worn or after say 1000km. I'm curious what they will do as soon as Pirelli presents the sl version basically around same thread thickness as the gp5000 tr sRDY wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:53 amRolling resistance slight disappointment given Pirelli's claims, but still good. Grip and puncture resistance absolutely excellent. The weight ... that's a really heavy 28mm race tire. The 32s might be approaching the 400g mark.
If you want puncture resistance and wet grip (all round grip) go Pirelli; if you don't ride in the wet, then get the Challenge Criterium.
Shame they don't do the tan walls above 30mm.
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I've been running Pirelli P Zero Race TLRs for a while now and have roughly 3500km on them. The rear is looking like it will need replacing soon - is this the sort of lifespan that others are getting on these tyres?
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I got significantly more than that.Schadenfreude wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:58 amI've been running Pirelli P Zero Race TLRs for a while now and have roughly 3500km on them. The rear is looking like it will need replacing soon - is this the sort of lifespan that others are getting on these tyres?
12 months and approximately 6000m whatever that is in km.
Front picked up a few punctures in the last few weeks, despite looking fine, and the rear was really squared off (got used as a commuter with panniers), but it's final ride was Flanders, and the carcass was beginning to poke through in a few places.
Replaced like for like
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About 7k km for me.Schadenfreude wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:58 amI've been running Pirelli P Zero Race TLRs for a while now and have roughly 3500km on them. The rear is looking like it will need replacing soon - is this the sort of lifespan that others are getting on these tyres?
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6000 miles on a rear mounted race tire is impressive, to say the least.
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Thanks for the responses. I think I have a bit of life left in the rear tyre, but there's no way I'll be getting 6000miles (9650km) out of it. Not even sure I'll get 7k km out of it.
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Sigh. Just got my hands on a pair in 28, tubeless, and was going to put them on Zipp 303FC. But now I'm worried that that's not meeting the new guidance (though Zipp says, "I mean, should be ok"). Should I try to return them for a pair of 30?
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I must be a lard arse compared to many on here. I never get more than 4k km out of any road rear tyre.Schadenfreude wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:12 amThanks for the responses. I think I have a bit of life left in the rear tyre, but there's no way I'll be getting 6000miles (9650km) out of it. Not even sure I'll get 7k km out of it.
I don't use touring or tyres designed primarily for mileage however.
I am about 77-78kg at the moment.
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Seems to meet the compatibility chart here?twoangstroms wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:51 amSigh. Just got my hands on a pair in 28, tubeless, and was going to put them on Zipp 303FC. But now I'm worried that that's not meeting the new guidance (though Zipp says, "I mean, should be ok"). Should I try to return them for a pair of 30?
https://www.sram.com/en/zipp/campaigns/ ... patibility
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Thanks – I saw that, but as mentioned on the Escape Collective/Geek Warning podcast, the new ETRTO guidelines say at least 29 for that combination, and Zipp seems not to be acknowledging that. Maybe I'm just looking for something to worry about.
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Is there a newer etrto standard than this?twoangstroms wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:28 amThanks – I saw that, but as mentioned on the Escape Collective/Geek Warning podcast, the new ETRTO guidelines say at least 29 for that combination, and Zipp seems not to be acknowledging that. Maybe I'm just looking for something to worry about.
https://www.veloflex.it/en/blog/post/ro ... s-coupling
I can't find it if there is.
28mm tyre is fine on a 25mm wide rim according to that.
I have run 28mm p-zero race TLR on my hookless WR50s (25mm int) with no probs.