Newmen Streem Vonoa 2024

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nikospeed
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by nikospeed

Raw carbon, might have a thin layer of matte clearcoat applied but mine look pretty "raw-ish".
No scratches yet but only 860kms so far (60/66 Sprint)

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Tomppa
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by Tomppa

trex wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:42 pm
Are the rims painted matte or is it raw carbon?
It looks like matte paint, doesn't it?
How does it behave in long-term use? Does it catch a lot of scratches?
I'm also interested to hear how people are getting on with this wheelset. There's really not a lot of information out there, unless it's all on some German forum somewhere.

I'm also curious if anyone else has experienced the wheels filling up with water, which was once reported on here.

Also, how are everyone's bearings holding up?

LeMillion
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by LeMillion

Tomppa wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 6:20 pm
trex wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:42 pm
Are the rims painted matte or is it raw carbon?
It looks like matte paint, doesn't it?
How does it behave in long-term use? Does it catch a lot of scratches?
I'm also interested to hear how people are getting on with this wheelset. There's really not a lot of information out there, unless it's all on some German forum somewhere.

I'm also curious if anyone else has experienced the wheels filling up with water, which was once reported on here.

Also, how are everyone's bearings holding up?
No issues with bearings as of yet, been running them for 2 plus months so still early. Also, no issues with water filling up - washed my bike many times and just like my previous rapide clx2s, no retention issues.

Like the above said, it's a raw matte finish. I don't expect scratches being any different than ones you get on other rims. Let me know if you have any other questions.

BigBoyND
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by BigBoyND

Since the proprietary hidden valve uses Shraeder diameter, is there a plug/adapter also on the rim-bed side for standard tubeless valves? I only saw pictures of the adapter on the (radial) inside.

MirFlash
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by MirFlash

Yes a complete set is supplied, their proprietary valve, and also plugs to reduce to standard valve dimensions.
And a "lite" tube not on the pic

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BigBoyND
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by BigBoyND

Which reducer is for the rim bed side?

DoesMyBikeLookFat
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by DoesMyBikeLookFat

Given the wheels are a raw finish, are the logos a decal/sticker over top the rim, or under some sort of varnish?

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by bedampft

DoesMyBikeLookFat wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:33 pm
Given the wheels are a raw finish, are the logos a decal/sticker over top the rim, or under some sort of varnish?
They're painted on.
BigBoyND wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:43 am
Which reducer is for the rim bed side?
There is none.

DoesMyBikeLookFat
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by DoesMyBikeLookFat

That and the poor bearing sealing rule these out for me. Thank you for the details you've shared bedampft on common isuses with these, very helpful.

BigBoyND
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by BigBoyND

bedampft wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:50 pm
BigBoyND wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:43 am
Which reducer is for the rim bed side?
There is none.
Is a typical presta TL valve big enough to work with a shraeder-sized hole in the rim bed?

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bedampft
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BigBoyND wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:07 am
bedampft wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:50 pm
BigBoyND wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:43 am
Which reducer is for the rim bed side?
There is none.
Is a typical presta TL valve big enough to work with a shraeder-sized hole in the rim bed?
Just about. Got two customers running them like this and they have no issues I know of. But they might not tell me :D
I run them with Eclipse TPUs, and so far no issues with rattling or wandering valvestems.
DoesMyBikeLookFat wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:56 pm
That and the poor bearing sealing rule these out for me. Thank you for the details you've shared bedampft on common isuses with these, very helpful.
Anytime :thumbup:


If only got ~750km on the A49/54 Vonoa with my Propel. So far no issues. But I try to only ride that bike when it's not raining. At least with a bit of cleaning after every ride, I didn't have any issues with water inside the rim.

JWTS
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by JWTS

Isn't there a MTB end cap for the fader hubs you can run if you're riding then in bad conditions? Not saying that's an ideal scenario, particularly when you supposedly need a tool to pull the end caps, but I wonder if that's a solution?

MirFlash
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by MirFlash

BigBoyND wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:43 am
Which reducer is for the rim bed side?
I have a previous set of wheels with the same valves.

If negatives to Newmen valves :
You need to "ride" with the adapter/storage tube, to be able to inflate or if in need of installing a tube. Never had to in the 8 months riding.
Refilling is a tricky job, as you don't want to loose the core when you loosen it.
Ideally valve at 12h00 so when unscrewed, core stays in the tool, best is a blop of grease to let it stick to the tool.
Only done it once since setup in usage

Positive
My eyes are less sore when I look at the rims without the valves sticking out
And in WW spirit you gain some precious grams at an important "moving" component

Then again haven't put them on the scale but we are possibly speaking of either 1-2 g at most :roll:

BigBoyND
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by BigBoyND

My question was about a reducer for using a standard TL valve which does stick out, to avoid all that faff

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JWTS wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:42 am
Isn't there a MTB end cap for the fader hubs you can run if you're riding then in bad conditions? Not saying that's an ideal scenario, particularly when you supposedly need a tool to pull the end caps, but I wonder if that's a solution?
There is and I just installed it last weekend. Covers the bearing quite nicely.
However when doing a cassette change on my trusted Corimas the same day, I realized that that hub also has the outer bearing exposed the same way as the Newmen. And my Corimas have seen quite some rain unfortunately w/o causing any problems.
So IMHO probably more of a minor issue in real life...

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