BRR members: Which tire is getting your vote next month?

[BigBoyND]

And if you query the internet you find out that most professional racers are now using skinwall tires because they say they are a tad faster.

Not to mention this isn't true either. The Corsa Pro you're talking about doesn't exist in black since it's a cotton tire, and those teams are sponsored by Vittoria so they have no choice. And it's slower than the vulcanized competitors (GP5k, F1R, and PZero RS).

[eins4eins]

without testing a bigger sample size, its not possible to say that colored tires are slower. You could most likely test five tires of the same size/color/model and all five would have a different rolling resistance with the difference being in the ballpark of colored vs black.

[froze]

I'm not a tire expert, maybe you are and can correct this website information. But after a much time-consuming search I consistently ran into this sort of information: https://www.theproscloset.com/blogs/new ... wall-tires

This site goes deep, maybe too deep, but worth reading: https://shunauto.com/article/what-is-th ... ycle-tires

And if you query the internet you find out that most professional racers are now using skinwall tires because they say they are a tad faster.

Look at the photos of the bikes used in the TDF it appears most, or at least half were using skinwall tires, but that could be simply be due to free tires from sponsors: https://www.bikeradar.com/features/pro- ... ance-bikes

The Pros Closet and Shunauto sites are both just completely incorrect. They seem to mix and match terms freely with no consistency and I'm not sure what else I can say here.

Re: the Bike Radar article, yes there are tires with tan sidewalls but they also have cotton casings. The newest generation of Vittoria Corsa Pro are still using a cotton casing with a unique process which is still different than the vulcanization process you see with nylon tires. The only other tire you see in the peloton with a tan sidewall is the Specialized Turbo Cotton which comes out of the same factory.

Do you know of any websites that prove that Pros Closet and Shunauto sites are incorrect with their tire report?

[alanyu]

I'm not a tire expert, maybe you are and can correct this website information. But after a much time-consuming search I consistently ran into this sort of information: https://www.theproscloset.com/blogs/new ... wall-tires

This site goes deep, maybe too deep, but worth reading: https://shunauto.com/article/what-is-th ... ycle-tires

And if you query the internet you find out that most professional racers are now using skinwall tires because they say they are a tad faster.

Look at the photos of the bikes used in the TDF it appears most, or at least half were using skinwall tires, but that could be simply be due to free tires from sponsors: https://www.bikeradar.com/features/pro- ... ance-bikes

The Pros Closet and Shunauto sites are both just completely incorrect. They seem to mix and match terms freely with no consistency and I'm not sure what else I can say here.

Re: the Bike Radar article, yes there are tires with tan sidewalls but they also have cotton casings. The newest generation of Vittoria Corsa Pro are still using a cotton casing with a unique process which is still different than the vulcanization process you see with nylon tires. The only other tire you see in the peloton with a tan sidewall is the Specialized Turbo Cotton which comes out of the same factory.

Do you know of any websites that prove that Pros Closet and Shunauto sites are incorrect with their tire report?

Do you know JV is a tyre expert from Goodyear?

[froze]

I'm not a tire expert, maybe you are and can correct this website information. But after a much time-consuming search I consistently ran into this sort of information: https://www.theproscloset.com/blogs/new ... wall-tires

This site goes deep, maybe too deep, but worth reading: https://shunauto.com/article/what-is-th ... ycle-tires

And if you query the internet you find out that most professional racers are now using skinwall tires because they say they are a tad faster.

Look at the photos of the bikes used in the TDF it appears most, or at least half were using skinwall tires, but that could be simply be due to free tires from sponsors: https://www.bikeradar.com/features/pro- ... ance-bikes

The Pros Closet and Shunauto sites are both just completely incorrect. They seem to mix and match terms freely with no consistency and I'm not sure what else I can say here.

Re: the Bike Radar article, yes there are tires with tan sidewalls but they also have cotton casings. The newest generation of Vittoria Corsa Pro are still using a cotton casing with a unique process which is still different than the vulcanization process you see with nylon tires. The only other tire you see in the peloton with a tan sidewall is the Specialized Turbo Cotton which comes out of the same factory.

Do you know of any websites that prove that Pros Closet and Shunauto sites are incorrect with their tire report?

Do you know JV is a tyre expert from Goodyear?

So what? No disrespect, but I would like to see some sort of proof of what's he saying, he must have some sort of Goodyear white paper he can show us. I'm not being disrespectful to anyone, I simply have questions. If the president of Goodyear had to go to court about, say, a lawsuit concerning a tire model failure, wouldn't he have to show the court proof that the failure is not a company problem but rather a user problem? No judge is going to rule automatically in his favor just because all he has to say is "I'm the president of Goodyear" and the case is over. I'm not asking for anything different, nor am I saying I believe those three sites I showed were right because I simply don't know, I want to be shown with some sort of documentation that someone is correct, that's all I'm asking, doesn't that seem fair?

I don't believe in aliens coming to our planet either, why? Because I haven't seen any solid evidence that has happened, while others can accept that possibility, I can't until I see solid proof. That doesn't mean I'm being disrespectful to hopeful alien visitor believers. I know for a fact what happened at Roswell!

[toxin]

Well not only do those articles make zero effort to address the differences between cotton casing tyres like vittoria corsas and vulcanized tyres like gp5k, power cup, etc., which makes the entire black-tan compariaon mute because of their different methods of construction. There is also empirical evidence of tanwall versions of gp5k having higher rolling resistance than the regular version in the brr test.

[DouglasDDX]

Schwalbe G-One RS 50-622 leading this month in number of votes. From what I can find, the tire in this size doesn't even exists and the 35, 40 and 45 have already been tested..

[spud]

The Pros Closet and Shunauto sites are both just completely incorrect. They seem to mix and match terms freely with no consistency and I'm not sure what else I can say here.

Re: the Bike Radar article, yes there are tires with tan sidewalls but they also have cotton casings. The newest generation of Vittoria Corsa Pro are still using a cotton casing with a unique process which is still different than the vulcanization process you see with nylon tires. The only other tire you see in the peloton with a tan sidewall is the Specialized Turbo Cotton which comes out of the same factory.

Do you know of any websites that prove that Pros Closet and Shunauto sites are incorrect with their tire report?

Do you know JV is a tyre expert from Goodyear?

So what? No disrespect, but I would like to see some sort of proof of what's he saying, he must have some sort of Goodyear white paper he can show us. I'm not being disrespectful to anyone, I simply have questions. If the president of Goodyear had to go to court about, say, a lawsuit concerning a tire model failure, wouldn't he have to show the court proof that the failure is not a company problem but rather a user problem? No judge is going to rule automatically in his favor just because all he has to say is "I'm the president of Goodyear" and the case is over. I'm not asking for anything different, nor am I saying I believe those three sites I showed were right because I simply don't know, I want to be shown with some sort of documentation that someone is correct, that's all I'm asking, doesn't that seem fair?

I don't believe in aliens coming to our planet either, why? Because I haven't seen any solid evidence that has happened, while others can accept that possibility, I can't until I see solid proof. That doesn't mean I'm being disrespectful to hopeful alien visitor believers. I know for a fact what happened at Roswell!

Uh, no disrespect, but JV doesn't owe you a thing. You can chose to believe him or not, and your life will go on exactly as it did prior.

[CampagYOLO]

Schwalbe G-One RS 50-622 leading this month in number of votes. From what I can find, the tire in this size doesn't even exists and the 35, 40 and 45 have already been tested..

I wonder if they got confused with the 60mm G-One Speed Pro which came out a few months ago and which Schwalbe claim is their fastest tyre yet.
I'd be very interested in a test of that tyre.

[BigBoyND]

No, that tire was on BRR separately and dropped off last month. Didn't get enough votes.

[TobinHatesYou]

Any interest in boosting the P Zero Race X TLR? It’s a new Hutchinson-manufactured model with a full coverage puncture protection belt. It’s a fairly inexpensive tire, but I have a hunch it will be about as fast as the normal Made-in-Italy P Zero Race TLR.

[CampagYOLO]

Any interest in boosting the P Zero Race X TLR? It’s a new Hutchinson-manufactured model with a full coverage puncture protection belt. It’s a fairly inexpensive tire, but I have a hunch it will be about as fast as the normal Made-in-Italy P Zero Race TLR.

I would be. Sounds like the perfect commuter tyre if it retains most of the speed of the Race TLR, has added protection and is inexpensive. The P Zero Race is already pretty tough but extra protection never hurt for the streets of London.

[emotive]

Given how well the Hutchinson Caracal Race tested, I am hoping the Hutchinson Python Race gets enough votes to be tested.

I am hoping someone can challenge Schwalbe MTB dominance.

[emotive]

Any interest in boosting the P Zero Race X TLR? It’s a new Hutchinson-manufactured model with a full coverage puncture protection belt. It’s a fairly inexpensive tire, but I have a hunch it will be about as fast as the normal Made-in-Italy P Zero Race TLR.

Given how well the Hutchinson Caracal Race tested, I am hoping the Hutchinson Python Race gets enough votes to be tested.

I am hoping someone can challenge Schwalbe MTB dominance.

[Yoln]

I'd totally vote for thee Python in December. Aside from that I'm really only interested in the coming Enve Hex () and Agilest Fast tests