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First, thanks to the Club Time for all the advice, I should receive my Alpe d'Huez Rim in the next two weeks, to replace an older RIM unit and reuse the Tubular ENVE SES and 9100 fabulous mech groupset. Thanks to Calnago, RIP..
But oh man if Time stops making rim, I HOPE after riding the Alpe D'Huez I do not regret buying the Scylon as well. Plus my V3RS 9270, would be a magical Trio.
Now let's get serious. Dyneema in the new bikes. My first experience with Dyneema was Specialized S Works, and those shoes were returned because the plastic toe box area softened on hot days and warped. Got my $$ back. But the shoes felt like painted liquid steel- I rarely if ever felt the need to reach down and unclick or reclick the Boa. Maybe 1-2 click but most rides, ZERO adjustments vs 2-3 motions on all other types, S Works Torch, S-Phyre. When inquiring ref Dyneema, it emerged that the shoe makers ditched it not due to cost, but very short lifespan. Stressed Dyneema is done quickly and, shelf life wise, 5 years max IF unused! The warranty issues got them to ditch it. It even failed R&D as a F1 top up material.
So, considering that Time had its own minor R&D issues, (Scylon rail clamp??), I must ask, how is Time Dyneema DCF different than any DCF out there? Resin or not, that material starts disintegrating through wear, vibration, any stress etc. And, it means that, in any stress spots, unlike CF that can last many years, hundreds of thousands or millions of cycles, decades with their RTM, Dyneema WILL disintegrate, fray, wear out AND introduce the very thing Time is known never to have, GAPS.
For the 'time' being I am holding off buying their new DCF bikes. therefore, high mileage ADHD owners become an important source of information.
Thankfully, Time has a lifetime warranty. But this is the sort that can bankrupt a company if every single DCF bases bike turns out to not survive a shelf life...
But oh man if Time stops making rim, I HOPE after riding the Alpe D'Huez I do not regret buying the Scylon as well. Plus my V3RS 9270, would be a magical Trio.
Now let's get serious. Dyneema in the new bikes. My first experience with Dyneema was Specialized S Works, and those shoes were returned because the plastic toe box area softened on hot days and warped. Got my $$ back. But the shoes felt like painted liquid steel- I rarely if ever felt the need to reach down and unclick or reclick the Boa. Maybe 1-2 click but most rides, ZERO adjustments vs 2-3 motions on all other types, S Works Torch, S-Phyre. When inquiring ref Dyneema, it emerged that the shoe makers ditched it not due to cost, but very short lifespan. Stressed Dyneema is done quickly and, shelf life wise, 5 years max IF unused! The warranty issues got them to ditch it. It even failed R&D as a F1 top up material.
So, considering that Time had its own minor R&D issues, (Scylon rail clamp??), I must ask, how is Time Dyneema DCF different than any DCF out there? Resin or not, that material starts disintegrating through wear, vibration, any stress etc. And, it means that, in any stress spots, unlike CF that can last many years, hundreds of thousands or millions of cycles, decades with their RTM, Dyneema WILL disintegrate, fray, wear out AND introduce the very thing Time is known never to have, GAPS.
For the 'time' being I am holding off buying their new DCF bikes. therefore, high mileage ADHD owners become an important source of information.
Thankfully, Time has a lifetime warranty. But this is the sort that can bankrupt a company if every single DCF bases bike turns out to not survive a shelf life...
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Sigh... But the Diamante Geometry is unforgiving, way more aggressive than the Diamate SV and eons more aggressive than Time. Look 785?
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Sigh... But the Diamante Geometry is unforgiving, way more aggressive than the Diamate SV and eons more aggressive than Time. Look 785?
To be as honest as possible, it isn't without things I don't like.Belisarius wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:23 amApv wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:14 amFinally joined club Time this past weekend.
It's a 2019 Scylon with the Aktiv fork.
Built up with Ultegra Di2 rim brakes, Easton EC70 carbon aero bars, and EA90 stem.
Wheels are custom built DT240s 54T ratchet with CX-Ray spokes.
Still need to change the saddle and bottle cages at some point.
Looks beautiful, how does it ride? I am soo tempted by the rim version to extend my aged worn out Italian rim. But debating school vs ADH01.. I know the difference and live in flat areas...
Starting with pros:
- Great bike for sprinting (compared to my Merida Scultura 6000 (2016), and Trek Emonda SL6 (2022 rim brake), and Supersix evo 2020 gen 3 (rim brake). It just feels really good, not sure what makes it so nice. The geometry seems to work well for me.
- Like-for-like comparing frames with the same components, its faster than any other bike I have owned, though I have never owned any aero bikes before.
- I would say its fairly smooth and comfortable. I can't tell if that is the Aktiv or just the bike itself. If I had a choice I might not go for the Aktiv, but just had to try the "full Time experience".
Cons:
- Not sure if this is the set up of the brakes or just the frame/single dual pivot brakes alone, but compared to direct mount brakes it feels a bit spongier. Still within the realms of being completely functional, but the direct mount brakes on the Emonda and Supersix.
- I'm struggling to get used to the headset system that it uses. The quickset has many pros, such as your forks staying in place when you remove the stem, but it seems like it's hard to get the preload just right. It can easily become too stuff and makes turning the forks feel a bit grindy, while adjusting it the other way can make it too smooth. The bars turn really easily and has the potential of knocking on your top tube by accident.
- The Aktiv fork broke on me once. The brass tune mass dampener must have delaminated off the metal plate that is attached to the bottom of the fork, and it caused a rattle inside the fork. Fortunately insurance covered the cost of a new fork from Time. Haven't had any issues since installing the new fork in July. It's also qiute heavy! I chopped my old forks to inspect inside, and attached the photo below. I can't remember the weight of the mass dampener but I think it was around 300 grams for one.
Unknowns:
- Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to race on this bike yet, I have been racing on the Emonda with the same wheels and tyres as the Scylon. The cannondale supersix has been my favourite bike to race so far, but I wasn't going to risk crashing and destroying the headtube with their steerer lock issue.. So I sold it and race on the Emonda now instead.
Got myself a new bike, plenty of inspiration found in this tread so here it is.
2023 ALPE D'HUEZ DISC - size S, V21 - Gloss Carbon
SHIMANO Ultegra Di2 R8170 Complete Group 2x12 | Crank Length 170 mm 50-34T, cassette 11-34
CADEX 42 TUBELESS DISC with CONTINENTAL GP 5000 S TR size 25
Hambini Racing BB386EVO BB
DARIMO CARBON Seatpost T1 Loop | UD matte / black | 27,2 mm 350 mm
SLR KIT CARBONIO SUPERFLOW saddle
THM Frontale Integrated Bar / Stem - 400 mm
STELVIO CORRETTO garmin mount
Supacaz Super Sticky Kush Bar Tape
ASSIOMA DUO PM
XXX bottle cages via AliExpress
Weight with mount, pedals, bottle cages – 7,6 kg
I don’t have much experience with bikes in this class so its difficult for me to compare but it absolutely wants to run wild. Even when I want a zone 2 ride I find myself pushing since it just wants to go. Descending is a dream but again difficult to compare since I am coming from a lower price level rim brake bike.
2023 ALPE D'HUEZ DISC - size S, V21 - Gloss Carbon
SHIMANO Ultegra Di2 R8170 Complete Group 2x12 | Crank Length 170 mm 50-34T, cassette 11-34
CADEX 42 TUBELESS DISC with CONTINENTAL GP 5000 S TR size 25
Hambini Racing BB386EVO BB
DARIMO CARBON Seatpost T1 Loop | UD matte / black | 27,2 mm 350 mm
SLR KIT CARBONIO SUPERFLOW saddle
THM Frontale Integrated Bar / Stem - 400 mm
STELVIO CORRETTO garmin mount
Supacaz Super Sticky Kush Bar Tape
ASSIOMA DUO PM
XXX bottle cages via AliExpress
Weight with mount, pedals, bottle cages – 7,6 kg
I don’t have much experience with bikes in this class so its difficult for me to compare but it absolutely wants to run wild. Even when I want a zone 2 ride I find myself pushing since it just wants to go. Descending is a dream but again difficult to compare since I am coming from a lower price level rim brake bike.
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Absolutely gorgeous. Congrats and great solid build too!
Basso Diamante eps 12
Basso Diamante eps 12
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New Bike Day!
Finished building up my Time ADHX and took it out for a 110km and 80km ride this weekend. It builds and rides like a dream! Very stable and comfortable and an absolute stunner. At 8.7kg in a size XL it isn't exactly a lightweight, but it gives the bike a very solid handling nonetheless.
Finished building up my Time ADHX and took it out for a 110km and 80km ride this weekend. It builds and rides like a dream! Very stable and comfortable and an absolute stunner. At 8.7kg in a size XL it isn't exactly a lightweight, but it gives the bike a very solid handling nonetheless.
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That old skoool times beautiful id love to see it with some low profile rims maybe some hyperons or a sturdy set of cobble bashing wheels as well
Basso Diamante eps 12
Basso Diamante eps 12
Formerly known as Curryinahurry
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