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Lucendi
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by Lucendi

jpeterson1012 wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:09 am
Ok so how have i missed this all along? Taking out the stupid "stealth rings" on the red cassette saves almost 7g for free. and the best part is: the bike is still silent.
Nicely done! :)

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Stunning. I hope you won't mind that I'm planning to steal quite a few ideas for my build :mrgreen:

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@Klaster_1
RodrigoOliveira wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:23 am
Stunning. I hope you won't mind that I'm planning to steal quite a few ideas for my build :mrgreen:
be my guest. while you're at it, feel free to try out these knockoff ciamillo lekki8's and tell us how they perform! from what I can tell, they are carbon copies with the exception that all torx bolts have been replaced with hex. they also weigh 133, which is identical to lekki8's once you factor in the 5% variance

Here's the link: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mN7L36O

given how basic the construction of lekki8's are (just cheaply cnc'd flat carbon sheet), I don't think there's all that much that could go wrong.

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jpeterson1012 wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:44 am
@Klaster_1

be my guest. while you're at it, feel free to try out these knockoff ciamillo lekki8's and tell us how they perform! from what I can tell, they are carbon copies with the exception that all torx bolts have been replaced with hex. they also weigh 133, which is identical to lekki8's once you factor in the 5% variance

Here's the link: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mN7L36O

given how basic the construction of lekki8's are (just cheaply cnc'd flat carbon sheet), I don't think there's all that much that could go wrong.
Oof. Tempting. But I'm relatively heavy at 183lb, combined with carbon rims, maybe brakes are one area I really shouldn't mess around with. Same reason I don't plan on using the much lighter (than Ultegra) SRAM Force brakes.

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Lucendi
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by Lucendi

Please don't save weight on the brakes by buying cheap knock off chinese clones.

I bet you get what you pay for.. and possibly get dead if they catastrophically fail.

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Lucendi wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:09 pm
Please don't save weight on the brakes by buying cheap knock off chinese clones.

I bet you get what you pay for.. and possibly get dead if they catastrophically fail.
While I agree with the general statement. I doubt you would be having the same reaction about Lekki's $500+ brakes, even though notoriously unreliable.

It's always funny to me how we weightweenies tend to be OK with some unreliable expensive carbon components, Berk Lupina or Lekki's brakes of the top of my head, but not OK with unbranded ones...
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Lucendi wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:09 pm
Please don't save weight on the brakes by buying cheap knock off chinese clones.

I bet you get what you pay for.. and possibly get dead if they catastrophically fail.
Just read the lekki8 warning post, and was surprised how nobody bothered to point out the failure mode. I posted a quick recommendation on how to avoid that failure. regarding the knockoffs, whether they're actually knockoffs I can't say, but if they truly did clone/use the same design, it should be fine. I'd have to get my hands on a set and look at the details to know

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Update: So it seems my old saddle tuning went a little too far, and despite my efforts to repair it, the bridge that connects the two halves together is cracking. In order to keep my butt cheeks wedded to one another, I've gone ahead and bought another one from the same seller. This time around, I've done the tuning a little differently. I've still shortened the nose and lopped off the rear, but I haven't gone ballistic in removing material until only a thin strip remains. I've also elongated the perineal relief slot as much as I could, extending it towards the the nose by around 10mm and the rear by around 10mm as well. The relief slot was also widened to match my first edition. Turns out, drillium is not the answer. The weight saved by drilling 18 holes was less than half a gram, and I did so mainly for aesthetic reasons. I've also removed more material from the rear of the 'wings' (my ass was never fat enough to touch those areas to begin with).

I've also been much more careful to avoid sanding through any plies, spending a good two hours alone in the bathroom with the door shut. Surprisingly enough, half of the weight savings actually come from taking off the clear coat (~10g). You can tell if it's clear coat or carbon by the color of your debris, if it's black water it's carbon, if it's white water it's clear coat.

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Despite the new one looking like it should be way heavier than the old one, they are in fact only 2.2g apart.

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Old one: 62.81g

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New one: 65.00g

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No sand through this time around! I'm actually rather fond of the aesthetic, looks visually cleaner than the old one. The "tips" on the rear of the old one made it look old fashioned and over-styled imo.

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Some drillium to give it a more weight weenie aesthetic. they remove less than 0.5g total so it isn't worth drilling any more.

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Extended perineal relief slot and widened bridge

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Overall length is 220mm, width is 125mm

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Noticeably shorter than the old version.

This one should last a lot longer than the old one!

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by dereksmalls

How much give does the saddle have?

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dereksmalls wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:57 pm
How much give does the saddle have?
A decent amount for a generic carbon saddle, it's actually quite comfortable for what it is. I've ridden other cheap Chinese carbon saddles that feel like a rock under my ass, but this one manages to flex just enough for me where it's forgiving while not sketching me out. would recommend, especially if you're a light rider.

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by Primera23

Just want to chip in here. I have the exact same saddle on my MTB. Without the nice tuning ofcourse ;-) I find it actually quite comfortable. Did rides froms 150km without problems. Been using it for over a year now. Granted my bike is a hardtail and I don't do all those Worldcup stages, I still put it through the ringer. Drops, jumps,... no signs of cracking, no abnormal flex, no creaks (unless there is sand between clamping area). Oh and I weigh 75kg so not the lightest. So really good value for 23 euro. Have a spare one in stock. Carry on good sir!

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by Lucendi

Great work on the saddle! It looks awesome and the weight saving with the tuning is great!

I need to try this myself. :)

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by Komarov

Great topic!! Love the DIY touches

P.S. damn this world where 4k$ bike is a budget option now😂

jpeterson1012
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Komarov wrote:
Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:00 am
Great topic!! Love the DIY touches

P.S. damn this world where 4k$ bike is a budget option now😂
indeed :D well for a full-on weightweenie bike it is pretty low on the cost scale.

I plan on retrying the rear mech tuning, as well as getting out the dremel for the brake levers next

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jpeterson1012
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well i wanted my THM claviculas for Christmas. Turns out Christmas is not receiving the cranks, but receiving an email saying they have shipped.

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