Epic refresh in '23 or '24

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Hexsense
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by Hexsense

rhender wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:27 pm
And then you'll stick a number on the front and completely destroy any aero improvments from the integration lol
We need smaller number plate.

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Integrated cables are the ultimate vainity excercise on a mtb. Literally NO performance gain for a litany of negatives. I'll wait until all the kinks have been worked out until going down that road. This could end up being the new pressfit, where they finally make it work right as everybody is transitioning away.

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OnTheRivet wrote:
Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:16 am
Integrated cables are the ultimate vainity excercise on a mtb. Literally NO performance gain for a litany of negatives. I'll wait until all the kinks have been worked out until going down that road. This could end up being the new pressfit, where they finally make it work right as everybody is transitioning away.
As a Lux World Cup CFR owner, had to remove the fork already for a cable removal. (Note: Lux CFR uses Canyon's new IPU2 design made by Acros, as far as I know.) I can confirm that, working with this new Headset concept is a true nightmare. Even if you have a professional repair stand, you'll need a buddy who will help you. I've sent my feedback to Canyon on this, even if I'm nobody in this world... However, it seems everyone else is getting on the train too. :(

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Yeah the canyon system is a mess, I have worked on a lot of them ImageImage

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by Swannie

You Can see the brake hoses just under the bar, they arent integrated on that specialized.

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by req110

rhender wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:27 pm
And then you'll stick a number on the front and completely destroy any aero improvments from the integration lol
Exactly, XC races, the number plate on races i do is around 25x15cm, huuuge penalty.
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Swannie wrote:You Can see the brake hoses just under the bar, they arent integrated on that specialized.
They run into the headset that’s the problem

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OnTheRivet wrote:
Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:16 am
Integrated cables are the ultimate vainity excercise on a mtb. Literally NO performance gain for a litany of negatives. I'll wait until all the kinks have been worked out until going down that road. This could end up being the new pressfit, where they finally make it work right as everybody is transitioning away.
Lightweight boutique parts are about as pointless. 1W gain for lower reliability and loads of cash.
Specialized SW Æthos (2021) 6.1kg
Specialized SW Crux (2022) 7.2kg
Specialized SW Tarmac (2022) 7.1kg
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg

*all weights are race ready bikes, large frame size.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT Disc

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by blaugrana

And you don't even get a full cable-free look like in road bikes because the front brake hose has to be external anyway due to the suspension fork.

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Specialized has nice discounts for the current models.

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by HHH

Nice mud time for the new stuff
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