New Shimano XTR M9200?

[snaxez]

Seems Shimano XTR has been releasing a new group every 4 years https://www.shimano.com/en/100th/histor ... cts/58.php
Is there any info on new XTR groupset coming maybe next year? Maybe new Di2?
Sram has new prototype BlackBox AXS, that has been seen on Nino and some others. Might come next year as well.

There have been a few interesting patents by shimano:
https://wheelbased.com/2022/09/28/rear- ... y-shimano/
https://wheelbased.com/2021/12/16/opera ... y-shimano/

[Hexsense]

If I'm Shimano, I'd wait for the next AXS first. Since it's about to be released very very soon.
A lot of deep discount on the current Sram MTB groupset already. They are clearing stock for the new group.

On the wish list:
I'm no longer using Shimano shifter and derailleur on MTB because of its leaky clutch housing. Shimano XT derailleur have clutch housing that allow easy water ingress through the clutch on/off lever. So, on my wetland area, Shimano clutch stick and mulfunction easily from rust/water damage as shown in video below. Clutch service can extend its life a bit but cannot undo rust damage. This is 5 months old clutch that replace older clutch which dead by the same fate. Sram RD (and chain) are a lot more rust and water resistant in my experience.

So, making the groupset more weather resistant is high on my wish list.

[jfranci3]

That and RD lock for changing the rear wheel. Sram had these and they went away on the newer RDs.

[ooo]

No new semiwireless or wireless shimano products appeared on fcc test lists so far

And we are still waiting for Saint G8000 update (1x7 prototype appeared in 2021)

M9200 202X-XX-XX
M9100 2018-05-25
M9000 2014-04-10
M980 2010-06-28
M970 2006-04-13
M960 2002-04-07
M950 1995

[F45]

Chinese wireless AXS knockoffs but no Shimano competitor? Sad.

Sram does a lot of things more logically. One piece machined steel cassettes. Super hard chain surface treatment. Wireless shifting. Shimano does some things more logically than Sram but not as many things.

Looking forward to the triples and quadruple material Shimano 9200 Cassette. Steel, Titanium, Aluminum, Magnesium, and Carbon, all in one cassette. What a great value.

[alexdi]

I'm very interested in the new SRAM cassette. It looks like they've made more of the top sprockets aluminum. Could narrow the weight gap to the 11S stuff.

[stoney]

I'd rather have the one piece all steel cassette SRAM used to make that lasted forever.

[derbi32]

hi, any news or rumor about a new xtr this year?

[ooo]

There is no new XTR in 2023.

[xcl]

hi, any news or rumor about a new xtr this year?

Seems like Shimano is zoned out with the mtb market, might as well just go transmission at this point since Sram actually innovates.

[Ritxis]

hi, any news or rumor about a new xtr this year?

Seems like Shimano is zoned out with the mtb market, might as well just go transmission at this point since Sram actually innovates.

Shimano out? really George?

[robbosmans]

Idk Shimano’s mechanical 12s MTB groupsets are still miles better than Sram’s mechanical offerings

[Karvalo]

Yeah - I can see how XTR is a bit out in the cold since people spending that money might just want AXS / Transmission now - but everything from Deore 12 to XT is flat out fantastic and directly compares with Sram mechanical.

[Xabi]

I love electronic drivetrains for 2x setup, on my hardtail MTB and all road bike I'm pretty happy with 1x12 mechanical, don't see the real benefit.

[satanas]

^ The "benefits" are that electronic costs more and is newer - therefore it's automatically better, no? (For bragging rights, anyway, at least until your frenemies have it too)