2022 new xc frames?

[Roadrocket]

The supercaliber frame weight isn´t that light compared to other frames that has 100-120 mm. So with a good lock-out what is the benefit of the supercaliber and Epic WC bikes ? I like the design but not sure if I should change my Epic yet.

Epic WC rear suspension is definitely different from the rest.
It use little to no negative volume. It sag at 0-5% rather than 25-30%.
Normally negative travel before sag point is there to track the undulating terrain to smooth things out, provide better tire grip and stability.
Make it sag at 0% means it's pretty much a hardtail with blow off travel reserve only for large hits. It doesn't provide traction benefit of normal suspension design. But it is brutally efficient like hardtail without the need of lockout.

SuperCaliber is just short travel bike. It doesn't function the same way as Epic WC. So in the case of SuperCaliber. I agree. I'd pick Epic Evo over SuperCaliber.

According to some reviews Supercaliber is totally efficient bike, you almost don´t need the lockout except for start sprinting but it is more comfortable than Epic WC at the same time. See Flowmountainbike review for example. Supercaliber looks to be a better option out of these two. Epic WC is purely for racing and even the racers don´t ride it.

I ride Gen 1 SC and it is great bike for racing but still comfortable as any 100mm classic FS.
I don't touch the lockout except when sprinting.
Waiting now for some good deal on Gen 2 9.6 or 9.7, hope to get like 30% off

[EddyTwerckx]

The supercaliber frame weight isn´t that light compared to other frames that has 100-120 mm. So with a good lock-out what is the benefit of the supercaliber and Epic WC bikes ? I like the design but not sure if I should change my Epic yet.

Epic WC rear suspension is definitely different from the rest.
It use little to no negative volume. It sag at 0-5% rather than 25-30%.
Normally negative travel before sag point is there to track the undulating terrain to smooth things out, provide better tire grip and stability.
Make it sag at 0% means it's pretty much a hardtail with blow off travel reserve only for large hits. It doesn't provide traction benefit of normal suspension design. But it is brutally efficient like hardtail without the need of lockout.

SuperCaliber is just short travel bike. It doesn't function the same way as Epic WC. So in the case of SuperCaliber. I agree. I'd pick Epic Evo over SuperCaliber.

According to some reviews Supercaliber is totally efficient bike, you almost don´t need the lockout except for start sprinting but it is more comfortable than Epic WC at the same time. See Flowmountainbike review for example. Supercaliber looks to be a better option out of these two. Epic WC is purely for racing and even the racers don´t ride it.

I ride Gen 1 SC and it is great bike for racing but still comfortable as any 100mm classic FS.
I don't touch the lockout except when sprinting.
Waiting now for some good deal on Gen 2 9.6 or 9.7, hope to get like 30% off

Gen 2 with Flight Attendant looks like it could be a killer race bike. Would love to hear some ride impressions from this setup.