TRICKSTUFF Piccola brakes - thoughts

[marecej]

should be available november/december, I'm going to try them for my new bike
you can indeed flip the levers

[UpFromOne]

I have the Trickstuff Cleg2 on my XC bike, best lightweight brake ever. It looks like the Piccolo changes only the lever, the caliper appears to be the same Cleg2. Yes, looking forward to production of these.

[Gullholm]

Got my Piccola set today, and first impression is that the finish is amazing.
The lever blades looks even better than I expected from pictures, seems quite big and thick from the front but a closer look at the back shows how much machining has been done. Calipers, even the connectors/banjos, have a very high quality feel too. Much nicer than the top offerings from Shimano and Sram.

Can't perfectly confirm the weight since I ordered mine with extra long hose front and rear for a special routing, but it can't be more than a couple of grams off from the claimed front 158g.

Got no frame yet though so won't be able to give a ride review until maybe March unfortunately.
But so far so good, it's worth mentioning that dealing with Trickstuff was one of the best shop experiences I've had. This silver version was custom made so there was a bit of correspondence, always super helpful and nice. Even sent a pic from the build-up of the brakes to let me see how the coloring turned out etc.

Hopefully they work as good as they look so I can get another set for the second bike.

[UpFromOne]

Yeah, I really like their build quality, the shipping box, and all the accessories, like their universal bleedkit with 3 different threads to fit many calipers. They'll mix & match anodizing too.

[tantra]

I am thinking about ordering Cleg 2 brakes for a new Ripley LS build. How do the Piccola brakes compare to the Cleg 2's?

[XC-MTB]

Do have a black one on my Wiesmann Titanium. It is an incredible brake. The lever feeling is excellent and very stiff. It is absolutely recommendable.

[HaakonJohansen]

Do have a black one on my Wiesmann Titanium. It is an incredible brake. The lever feeling is excellent and very stiff. It is absolutely recommendable.

Off-topic, but do you have a picture of this bike here on the forum?:)

[XC-MTB]

Do have a black one on my Wiesmann Titanium. It is an incredible brake. The lever feeling is excellent and very stiff. It is absolutely recommendable.

Off-topic, but do you have a picture of this bike here on the forum?:)

Not at the moment. It has just been builded

[UpFromOne]

I am thinking about ordering Cleg 2 brakes for a new Ripley LS build. How do the Piccola brakes compare to the Cleg 2's?

When I was corresponding with Trickstuff a few months ago, they admitted the calipers are the same, only more machining on the piccolo.
I never asked about the effects of the new piccolo MC, but my experience with Trickstuff would suggest no loss of braking power over the cleg.

[ttakata73]

Very cool looking brakeset.
What does the front and rear combined weigh in at?

[andreszucs]

They suppose to be the lightest...and there's still room for weight saving. Not sure what kind of hose they are using...but the BFO (Brake Force Once) hose is stupid light, so it could be retrofitted to Piccola. There is also 4 steel bearings on each lever, if replaced by full ceramic ones, cheap from China...or even nylon bushings...that's another small saving. I'm guessing about 20g saving for the set doing that. How about pads? The weight stated on the website is with steel pads?

Also found some pictures on a German site of the separate parts on scale.
https://fotos.mtb-news.de/p/2092688


Caliper without pads, don't think the banjo is there either.

Rear

Front


For reference:
Components that I have personally weighted before:

Calipers:
1x Sram Red, no pads, no security bolt, with banjo bolt:74.6g
Old Magura Mt8, no pads, no security bolt, with banjo bolt: 74.5g
New Magura Mt8 no pads, no security bolt, with banjo bolt: 87.5g
1st gen BFO with steel pads: 115g (sorry not sure without pads)

levers:
1x newer BFO with clamp and Ti bolts: 46.7g
1x old Magura MT8 with clamp and stock steel bolts: 54g
1x New Magura MT8 with clamp and stock steel bolts: 59g
1x old BFO with clamp and Ti bolts: 60g
1x sram 1st gen XX with clamp and Ti bolt: 67.2g
1x Sram XX World Cup (72g) + Clamp with Ti bolt (14.3g): 86.3g

Hoses:
BFO: 13.33g/meter
Sram Avid: 18g/meter/meter
Magura Disc-Tube 2.2: 19.6g
Shimano high power: 20g/meter
Jagwire HFK: 21.66g.meter

I think I found the Piccola Hose spec....16g/m
http://www.stauffusa.com/customer/stcor ... N2_DN4.pdf

[HaakonJohansen]

They suppose to be the lightest...and there's still room for weight saving. Not sure what kind of hose they are using...but the BFO (Brake Force Once) hose is stupid light, so it could be retrofitted to Piccola. There is also 4 steel bearings on each lever, if replaced by full ceramic ones, cheap from China...or even nylon bushings...that's another small saving. I'm guessing about 20g saving for the set doing that. How about pads? The weight stated on the website is with steel pads?

Also found some pictures on a German site of the separate parts on scale.
https://fotos.mtb-news.de/p/2092688


Caliper without pads, don't think the banjo is there either.

Rear

Front


For reference:
Components that I have personally weighted before:

Calipers:
1x Sram Red, no pads, no security bolt, with banjo bolt:74.6g
Old Magura Mt8, no pads, no security bolt, with banjo bolt: 74.5g
New Magura Mt8 no pads, no security bolt, with banjo bolt: 87.5g
1st gen BFO with steel pads: 115g (sorry not sure without pads)

levers:
1x newer BFO with clamp and Ti bolts: 46.7g
1x old Magura MT8 with clamp and stock steel bolts: 54g
1x New Magura with clamp and stock steel bolts: 59g
1x old BFO with clamp and Ti bolts: 60g
1x sram 1st gen XX with clamp and Ti bolt: 67.2g
1x Sram XX World Cup (72g) + Clamp with Ti bolt (14.3g): 86.3g

Hoses:
BFO: 13.33g/meter
Sram Avid: 18g/meter/meter
Magura Disc-Tube 2.2: 19.6g
Shimano high power: 20g/meter
Jagwire HFK: 21.66g.meter

I think I found the Piccola Hose spec....16g/m
http://www.stauffusa.com/customer/stcor ... st/Test_Ho

This is greit info! Would be nice to see these weights for the R1R's too.

[poynt]

I would like to see the R1R's (whichever yr was the lightest), and also as we are trying to find the lightest combo/parts, what about the Kill Hills, which like the TS are modified and machined versions of existing brakes. I know there are issues with mixing parts from one manufacture to another, like the BFO hoses aren't high pressure so can't be put on the R1R's, but I have found alu and Ti hose parts that reduce things a bit.

[HaakonJohansen]

I would like to see the R1R's (whichever yr was the lightest), and also as we are trying to find the lightest combo/parts, what about the Kill Hills, which like the TS are modified and machined versions of existing brakes. I know there are issues with mixing parts from one manufacture to another, like the BFO hoses aren't high pressure so can't be put on the R1R's, but I have found alu and Ti hose parts that reduce things a bit.

I've found Ti fittings for the R1R's (most of the R1R's original fittings are Ti as standard though, so not much weight savings here), but I'm struggling to find Alu fittings. Do you know of any online stores selling Alu fittings that will fit the R1R's, without having to use aftermarket hoses?

[poynt]

it seems most of the Goodridge alu fittings aren't that compatible, here are the Ti hose fittings if it helps

http://titaniumplanet.com/index.php?id_ ... &id_lang=1
http://titaniumplanet.com/index.php?id_ ... &id_lang=1