New powermeter rumours

[jfranci3]

Specy is tight with Praxis and Praxis already has a relationship with 4iiiiiiiiii https://praxiscycles.com/product/zayante-4iiii-power/ . Seems like a good idea to market a groupset neutral powermeter and something dual sided. 4iiii probably seemed like a no risk option and was buy-able if business got good.

[maquisard]

Chances that Specialized will acquire 4iiii must be pretty high...

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DriveLine Zele-epz-OS
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54198&start=3210#p1335862

Interesting...any other info?

[ghisallo2003]

I see that there is now an option for a rechargeable battery on Campag SRM.

Does anyone know more or have pictures beyond this:

http://www.socimage.com/media/159915470 ... 1408531076

https://www.photagram.gq/media/BectTzwhapz

I think that if these are final versions, then it is a backward step. I like the simplicity and absolute elegance of my Campag SRMs. If I wanted something with a less refined look, then I could have bought P2M.

[maquisard]

SRM are dead as a company. They stopped innovating years ago and have stood still whilst others caught up and passed them.

[c60rider]

You can buy 2 P2M 4 arm Campagnolo type s for the price of one SRM. Can't see how it's viable to buy an SRM. It still needs a magnet to work

[ghisallo2003]

Off topic but SRM is still the most elegant crank based meter in my eyes, with the best aesthetics. I have no reason to suspect that their measurement is any better than others such as P2M, but at least for a sector of the market, they will continue to be viewed as the best overall package. For me personally, having to send the unit back once every three years is worth what I see whenever I look at my bike.

[maquisard]

Unfortunately, the way things are going, they won't be there in three years time to change your battery...

[moyboy]

Just like quarq and sram.

why build when you can buy.

Chances that Specialized will acquire 4iiii must be pretty high...

[ghisallo2003]

Unfortunately, the way things are going, they won't be there in three years time to change your battery...

Your evidence? Like Campagnolo being decimated by the OEM market? They won't be the biggest supplier, but that is not their objective. Having just bought another SRM, I did take a bet.

[mag]

New ROTOR 2INpower DM, seems to be based on their recent Aldhu crankset http://rotorbike.com/catalog/default/ro ... -road.html

[maquisard]

Your evidence? Like Campagnolo being decimated by the OEM market? They won't be the biggest supplier, but that is not their objective. Having just bought another SRM, I did take a bet.

The powermeter market is growing, SRM's market share is diminishing. They aren't investing in new products and instead simply relying on the revenue from their current product line. Any new products like the latest iteration of the PowerControl is over priced, under specced and late to market.

This only ever ends one way, they will be gone in a couple of years.

[c60rider]

Your evidence? Like Campagnolo being decimated by the OEM market? They won't be the biggest supplier, but that is not their objective. Having just bought another SRM, I did take a bet.

The powermeter market is growing, SRM's market share is diminishing. They aren't investing in new products and instead simply relying on the revenue from their current product line. Any new products like the latest iteration of the PowerControl is over priced, under specced and late to market.

This only ever ends one way, they will be gone in a couple of years.

I doubt they'll be gone in a couple of years but they'll not gain any new customers as they're way out of price for most. Power meter price has and will continue to drop in price so any new riders to power dipping their toe will probably go stages, pioneer, 4i etc and probably find they work perfectly adequately. And marketing sells products. 20 years ago the top teams all tended to ride Colnago. They drifted out of sponsorship and most bikers now seem to lust after he latest trek, specialized, bmc, canyon etc why? Because the pros ride them. Same with power meters hardly anyone is using srm now so if a product is good enough for them that's what the masses will buy.

[ghisallo2003]

I will be happy with my SRMs whilst others ride something else.

Back to the question - any more on the rechargeable units?

[maquisard]

I doubt they'll be gone in a couple of years but they'll not gain any new customers as they're way out of price for most. Power meter price has and will continue to drop in price so any new riders to power dipping their toe will probably go stages, pioneer, 4i etc and probably find they work perfectly adequately. And marketing sells products. 20 years ago the top teams all tended to ride Colnago. They drifted out of sponsorship and most bikers now seem to lust after he latest trek, specialized, bmc, canyon etc why? Because the pros ride them. Same with power meters hardly anyone is using srm now so if a product is good enough for them that's what the masses will buy.

I have to disagree, the fact that they are not producing new products is a bad sign. As as an engineering business when cash flow becomes a problem the first thing you do is cut R&D spend to reduce your operating costs and extract the most revenue out of your business by continuing to see your existing product line.

SRM aren't used by pros as much now as other manufacturers have caught up and passed SRM. The same is true of Colnago and other frame manufacturers. You are living in fantasy land if you think Colnago are even remotely close to cutting edge of bicycle frame design. In the case of SRM, their implementation, particularly the temperature compensation, is markedly inferior to what is implemented in modern powermeters like the Power2Max, Quarq etc.

Today with SRM you are not riding a market leading powermeter, but you are paying a market leading price for it.