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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

Hexsense wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:04 am
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:29 pm
There's even more to that. My Domane RSL has 80mm BB drop while my Madone has 70mm. I race on 30mm WAM tires on either bike so I am 1cm lower to the ground on the Domane in an equivalent body position. This is particularly useful when trying to stay in the draft of smaller riders. I bet I save kJ racing my Domane RSL over my Madone more often than not.
I now wishing for more bb drop since I am now testing 155mm crank...
Any 85mm bb drop out there?

There's nothing out there with more than 80mm BB drop that is also long+low. The Pursuit Supple Road is also at 80mm with its odd sizes having a somewhat aggressive r:s ratio.

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by Hexsense

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:28 am
There's nothing out there with more than 80mm BB drop that is also long+low. The Pursuit Supple Road is also at 80mm with its odd sizes having a somewhat aggressive r:s ratio.
I actually care more on front center to stack ratio, rather than reach. I can fix short reach with longer stem. I can't fix bike that front wheel is too close to me to the point weight balance become front heavy.
In this case, Cannondale SuperSix Evo 48,51,54 and SystemSix 51 are also very competitive with its 71.2deg HTA +55mm fork offset which kick front wheel forward. Even SystemSix size 51 has longer front center than Specialized Tarmac size 56.
Long front center, not too tall head tube. 74mm bb drop is less than I want (prefer 80mm+). But I can't have it all with any current bike yet.

And I don't see Factor (Ostro update) wanting to drastically change geometry to follow suit of Cannondale, Cervelo and Trek Domane RSL's long front center+low bb geometry either.

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by Tpduke112

miOdiO wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:47 pm
Jz91 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:11 am
As posted under the tour section:

Gonna leave it here: Can bikes actually get any more aero, or is the arms race over?

Gitelis unsurprisingly showed total confidence in what was to come, telling us; “the next bike we release will have a significant improvement” over its current Ostro VAM aero bike. The main facilitator for this, he explained “Is because we can afford to do the work now, and we have the know-how and the people”
So any idea when the new bike will be announced? Start of the new season or later in the season around the bigger races? Or is this just some teasing for a bike in the far future?
Same question - the article talks about how much faster companies are able to utilize and tweak CFD data for cheaper so are we looking at a new Factor Aero bike this year?
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by kerio

Do we know which 3rd party extensions* can be installed on Black Inc aerobar? It's apparent that there's no way to adjust the height of stock ones.

*Or perhaps there's an option to use some [angled] spacers with Black Inc's extensions?

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by inertianinja

Has anyone put 32mm Conti GP5000 on the BlackInc 45s?

I have 28s on them now, curious how the 32s fit.

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by spartan

so according to the latest gcn tech video from austalia the new factor is about 10 watts faster then existing one..mmmm

https://youtu.be/ZY_P36WtsJU?t=178
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Co0kieMonster
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by Co0kieMonster

Does someone know/remember the torque recommendation for the "classic" expander plug (not the current version with the updated fork)? Factor updated its assemly manual and unfortunately, I cannot find any old version.

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by doogie2304

the manual I have doesn't give a torque setting for that

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by Factor50

10nm according to this video I got when replacing my plug: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12vJyel ... F1BU5/view

TomSte
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by TomSte

I just wanted to ask whether you think that there is too much space between the top of the steerer/compression plug and the top of the stem?
I think Factor recommends about 3mm. I measured ca. +/-4mm. The aero top cap needs appr. 2mm, so that the gap still is about 2mm.
I'm not quite sure whether there is any risk with that since the upper clamp of the stem is still below the top end of the steerer and the compression plug should rather sit as deep as possible at the same height as the upper headset bearing.
What's your opinion on that?
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by Erwin

Perhaps I would file down one spacer about 1mm. Mine measured about 3mm from the top.

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by bobones

TomSte wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:47 am
I just wanted to ask whether you think that there is too much space between the top of the steerer/compression plug and the top of the stem?
I think Factor recommends about 3mm. I measured ca. +/-4mm. The aero top cap needs appr. 2mm, so that the gap still is about 2mm.
I'm not quite sure whether there is any risk with that since the upper clamp of the stem is still below the top end of the steerer and the compression plug should rather sit as deep as possible at the same height as the upper headset bearing.
What's your opinion on that?

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I wouldn't worry about this in the slightest: any additional risk must be infinitesimally small. Just getting on your bike and going outdoors for a ride presents many more significant risks than this. Let common sense prevail for once.

TomSte
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by TomSte

You're so damn right with that 👍

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by cleanneon98

Has this not been tested by Tour?
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miOdiO
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by miOdiO

No. Only the One was tested I think. Fingers crossed the new Ostro will be tested once it's released (14Feb hopefully)

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