super six evo hi mod frame weight

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Kaldani
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by Kaldani

I weighed my 54cm cannondale super six evo hi mod frame and it weighed 880 grams, painted and bare. Yet cannondale touts 700-750g weight.

Does any one know if my frames weight is normal or too heavy?

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by Kaldani

That Would mean the paint weighs 130-180g?

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If you search this forum you may note that the Evo Hi-Mod has always been notoriously overweight compared to what Cannondale claimed.

And yes, paint has mass.
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by Kaldani

True but what confuses me is that there are some who claim close to the manufacturers weight. I should add that I had it stripped and resprayed (powder coat I presume).

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It's carbon.
The process for powdercoat is not ideal for carbon, due to the heat involved (objects go into an oven).

Your choices are:
-no paint/clear (2nd lightest option, depending on the thickness of clear)
-no paint/no clear (use a UV protectant) (lightest option and least expensive)
-wet paint (heaviest option of the three, most expensive of the three)

4th option:
-strip, clear, vinyl wrap. (will weigh less than wet paint, heavier than bare)
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Can you really wrap a frame and have a good looking result?

I wrapped a fork once and it was hard to get acceptable results.

I'd imagine wrapping the seat or BB cluster would be pure hell. It's not like a car where you can hide the edges on the rear of the panels!

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by Kaldani

So has anyone weighed an evo or hi mod frame and tell me if mines is more or less correct weight?

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by Kaldani

Kaldani wrote:I weighed my 54cm cannondale super six evo hi mod frame and it weighed 880 grams, painted and bare. Yet cannondale touts 700-750g weight.

Does any one know if my frames weight is normal or too heavy?


To clarify, that's frame alone, no hangers nor wire plate guide, just paint.

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My 2015 evo hm with bb and hanger came in at 868. Heavy ass white paint..

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by numberSix

2013 Evo Hi-Mod size 52,
paint scheme: gloss clear (black) with green outlined "Evo", white lettered "Cannondale" and pinstripes:

Frame: 52cm + hanger, brake stop, BBcups (aluminum, already bonded into the frame so BB30, not PF30), and rear brake cable guide (2g)
761g total
3g cable guide under BB.
4g Cdale aluminum bottle cage bolts
15g Cdale seatpost collar

fork: steerer cut @7.25”
296g
51g headset bearings (2) & split ring
13g Cdale KP017 expander
3g Cdale 3?mm cap
7g crown race

total 1153g -2g = 1151g ready to build

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Kaldani wrote:... it weighed 880 grams, painted and bare.


...define BARE.

Per comments above, you can see that everyone has a different definition. I follow the weightweenies standard which matches manufacturers definition (in their attempt to hype weight claims), however, others include everything that can be hung or be attached to a frame.

Bare weight should not include: headset or BB bearings; BB adapter cups; seatpost clamp, H2O bolts; cable guides; rear mech hanger; frt mech clamp
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by MisterMuncher

From my recently delivered 2015:

2015 Hi-Mod 54cm, cage bolts, seatpost clamp, hanger and plastic cable guide: 822g
Fork, cut to 240mm or so: 305g (336 uncut, stupidly long!)
PF30 BB: 85g
Headset bearings, crown race, 10mm spacers, 5mm top cone, KP017L Expander: 82g

Actual "in use" weight of stuff that came in the frameset box: 1293g.

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by defride

From what I can gather the Cannondale weights are fairly accurate. Thing is you have to buy a matte finish to get the 750ish gram Hi-Mod frame. I'd guess my 56 is closer to 900 than 800, maybe more but it's painted so I'm okay with that, rides great.

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by reedplayer

in my experience, a glossy paintjob adds at least 90-100 gr. compared to matte.

just got my matte-black frame covered with two layers of semi-gloss clear, 792 gr before, 875 gr after.

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defride wrote:From what I can gather the Cannondale weights are fairly accurate. Thing is you have to buy a matte finish to get the 750ish gram Hi-Mod frame. I'd guess my 56 is closer to 900 than 800, maybe more but it's painted so I'm okay with that, rides great.


You see I've just had the frame stripped and resprayed in matt or near Matt finish and mainly black. I wish I had a note of the original weight to compare but unfortunately I've misplaced it.

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