Frame questions + best frame you ever rode
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- iliedanila
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Does someone have any experience on Time Izon?
Over the past 10 years or so, because of the type of bike shop we run, have tested hundreds of high-end bikes
But the other day, tested a Sarto Trama - and it was amazing!!!
The Trama isn't even their top end model, so not quite sure why it felt so good - perhaps it was the custom geometry of the particular customer whose bike it was, or whether it was the whole package (di2 + fulcrum zero carbons) just working like a dream in the conditions that day - but it was like a Specialissima, a Zero7, a C60 and an F8 all rolled into one!
Did the 70 mile test ride in one gear harder than i would normally ride all the way round - got back in the workshop, loaded the Garmin to Strava - Pbs all the way round and didn't feel like I'd got remotely close to riding on the rivet, so there must have been some magic in there somewhere!!!
But the other day, tested a Sarto Trama - and it was amazing!!!
The Trama isn't even their top end model, so not quite sure why it felt so good - perhaps it was the custom geometry of the particular customer whose bike it was, or whether it was the whole package (di2 + fulcrum zero carbons) just working like a dream in the conditions that day - but it was like a Specialissima, a Zero7, a C60 and an F8 all rolled into one!
Did the 70 mile test ride in one gear harder than i would normally ride all the way round - got back in the workshop, loaded the Garmin to Strava - Pbs all the way round and didn't feel like I'd got remotely close to riding on the rivet, so there must have been some magic in there somewhere!!!
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Colnago C64 - The Naked Build; Colnago C60 - PR99; Trek Koppenberg - Where Emonda and Domane Meet;
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Unlinked Builds (searchable): Colnago C59 - 5 Years Later; Trek Emonda SL Campagnolo SR; Special Colnago EPQ
just the usual Weetabix!!
My wish list:
1) Sub 800g
2) Aero influenced (does not need to be a Madone level of aero!)
3) Direct mount brakes
4) Threaded BB
All this in a package which has geometry that works for me - I have long legs and a shorter upper body so a bike with a smaller reach measurement while preserving a reasonable stack height as I tend to have a high seat for my height. Something like a SuperSix or an Aeroad are unfortunately not candidates.
Does not hit all the marks but so far I would say the Emonda SLR is towards the top of my list, as is the Pinarello Gan RS.
Any others that I should be considering? (I ride a 2015 Cervelo R3 right now)
Cheers
Mark
1) Sub 800g
2) Aero influenced (does not need to be a Madone level of aero!)
3) Direct mount brakes
4) Threaded BB
All this in a package which has geometry that works for me - I have long legs and a shorter upper body so a bike with a smaller reach measurement while preserving a reasonable stack height as I tend to have a high seat for my height. Something like a SuperSix or an Aeroad are unfortunately not candidates.
Does not hit all the marks but so far I would say the Emonda SLR is towards the top of my list, as is the Pinarello Gan RS.
Any others that I should be considering? (I ride a 2015 Cervelo R3 right now)
Cheers
Mark
lowside67
the two that would stand out for accommodating all of your wishlist are the Sarto Lampo and the Epoca R60
both also have a custom geometry + sizing option, so your long legs/short body issue can easily be annulled
regards
ianSWBB
the two that would stand out for accommodating all of your wishlist are the Sarto Lampo and the Epoca R60
both also have a custom geometry + sizing option, so your long legs/short body issue can easily be annulled
regards
ianSWBB
han1337
lol!
both are cheaper than a Dogma F8! and that is with the custom colour and custom geometry/sizing options!
regards
ianSWBB
lol!
both are cheaper than a Dogma F8! and that is with the custom colour and custom geometry/sizing options!
regards
ianSWBB
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1. Madone 9 so fast, wonderful integration and performance, handles quite well and very comfortable for long days, fits 28+s. just have to get over the fact that its a Trek
2. C59 slow non aero frame but enjoyable predictable ride at reasonable weight and highly durable
3. EP
huge gap in ride quality/enjoyment/handling
Dogma
R3
various Look's
various Time's
2. C59 slow non aero frame but enjoyable predictable ride at reasonable weight and highly durable
3. EP
huge gap in ride quality/enjoyment/handling
Dogma
R3
various Look's
various Time's
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coloclimber wrote:1. Madone 9 so fast, wonderful integration and performance, handles quite well and very comfortable for long days, fits 28+s. just have to get over the fact that its a Trek
2. C59 slow non aero frame but enjoyable predictable ride at reasonable weight and highly durable
3. EP
huge gap in ride quality/enjoyment/handling
Dogma
R3
various Look's
various Time's
EP? I'm not familiar with that...
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My experiences are limited to bikes i've owned and ridden on vacation, but i'd have to say that my current c-59 is the best road bike I've ever had, followed by my Firefly for gravel/winter riding. I've been fortunate in that every new bike I've purchased has been better than the one it replaces. For the first time I am not looking forward to replacing a road bike I'm that satisfied with the c-59. I may tinker with the Firefly at some point but I don't really ride it often enough to justify purchasing more expensive wheels or group sets and for the riding I do on it, I may not even notice a difference.
Colnago C-59 (Dura Ace)
Firefly(Ultegra)
Colnago C-64 disc(ultegra) with Bora 35 wheels
Firefly(Ultegra)
Colnago C-64 disc(ultegra) with Bora 35 wheels