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KarlC
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by KarlC on Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:49 am
LouisN wrote:I prefer tubulars. Ride them 90% of the time outside, from april to october.
I was trying to find a recent tubular tires Crr test to find the lowest resistance rolling tubular but without much sucess...
Louis
I just got a set of Ziip Tangentes SL Speed 27mm they tested well.
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mrgray
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by mrgray on Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:08 am
Tubs tubs and tubs. Sealants made it the go for sure. Though certainly can be expensive if you eschew the harder wearing tubs.
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kkibbler
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by kkibbler on Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:04 am
Tubs if I have a personal mechanic to stretch, glue, mount, and replace them as needed. Otherwise, clinchers.
I don't have a personal mechanic.
And I dislike glue.
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FreaK
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by FreaK on Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:15 am
I'm my own personal mechanic so, that doesn't sway me much.
I've been riding gatorskin tubulars all winter. Real winter winter and the only thing that worries me is freshly broken beer bottles, well that and this one off camber turn. I went down twice in the same spot. I love tubulars, but Gatorskins are no racing tyre! I think i'll grab something else for that bike once they're worn out.
I've had much worse reliability with clinchers, but I've probably gone through fewer clinchers than tubulars on my own bikes.
it's actually possible to come to the conclusion even before realising it makes no sense at all
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Vermu
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by Vermu on Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:31 am
Would like to go from clinchers to tubulars but so far clincher have been so easy to live with. Tbh a bit afraid to do the transition and at the same time put some money on new wheel set.
Then again really tempted to switch when upgrading wheelset.
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gravity
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by gravity on Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:08 am
Used to ride tubular but it's such a hassle after 4 puncture in a month. No doubt tubular rides better but the time spend prepping wheels isnt worth it IMHO. Perhaps i'm not "true" cyclist but i really dont care. I ride alu clincher exclusively now.
Just personal observation: any clincher cotton tires with latex tube ride almost as good as vittoria corsa tubular but clincher cotton tires wear out pretty fast and really puncture prone.
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joepac
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by joepac on Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:53 pm
Clinchers... I can ride low rolling resistance clinchers all spring and summer and change them myself in a matter of minutes if they flat. I don't have the time to spend hours prepping and days waiting every time I need change a tire... Even changing out brake pads and switching wheels for races is enough of a PTA that I just always ride on my carbon race wheels once the season starts. My Schwalbe One clinchers have flatted once in 2100 miles, so the pain and mess of changing a tubeless tire with sealant does not seem worth the small gains of RR and flat protection
Everybody I know who rides tubies uses gatorskin so they can avoid flats, which really defeats the purpose of suppleness of tubies. 100-200g in weight reduction doesn't overcome the massive increase in rolling resistance from using gatorskins over racing tires.
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LenJ
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by LenJ on Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:19 pm
Life is to short to deal w Tubulars. I rode them for years but once the performance gap went away (other than weight) they just aren't worth the hassle to me.
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Skunkworks
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by Skunkworks on Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:45 am
I use carbon wheel for weight/rim_depth ratio.
I couldn't find any reason to use carbon clincher.
They are much heavier than carbon tubulars.
Additionally, I suffer two terrible tubular puncture during 4 yrs of riding. However, I had more than 3 times of punctures during only one season.
I will go riding with tubular.
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cafegeek
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by cafegeek on Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:27 pm
Tubular.
Most people think tubular tire go repeatedly flat.
That's not true. If you check your tire pressure before riding, your tire will be fine.
In addition tubluar is more light than clincher.
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KarlC
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by KarlC on Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:44 pm
For me Tubular.
I ride with buddies on the same roads, they have clinchers, we have been keeping track of who gets more flats so far they are losing. Also I have only had 1 flat that Sealants did not fix, it was a 3/4" gash from broken glass that would have put any tire down for good.
For me gluing up new tires a couple of times a year is not an issue, its ez really, just do it on your off ride days.
Its also ez to find videos on You Tube of how to, install new Tubulars, Use Sealants, Ezaly Replace a Tubular on the road and so on. Like anything new it can take a few tries to get used to it, but once you do I see no reason ride clinchers.
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PinaRene
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by PinaRene on Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:06 pm
LenJ wrote:Life is to short to deal w Tubulars. I rode them for years but once the performance gap went away (other than weight) they just aren't worth the hassle to me.
Live is to short to ride on clinchers - enjoy life, ride tubulars
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mr4fox
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by mr4fox on Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:08 pm
Tubulars 99% of the time. They just feel better. Experimenting with tubeless on my tubeless ready clincher rims. If they weren't such a nightmare to get my specific tyres on my specific rims if probably use them more when it's wet out. But mainly to preserve the life of the carbon brake tracks on my tubular wheels, no so much for concerns of puncturing.
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MisterMuncher
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by MisterMuncher on Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:12 am
I love tubs, but the roads round here really don't. So I run tubeless. I can't honestly say the difference is substantial in feel, beyond those perfect moments when you find yourself on a glorious downhill on real Tarmac, as opposed to shit chip-seal. That's when I miss Corsas. And then I hear the hssss-pft of a self sealing puncture and realise I've saved a load of arsing about.