Sisbud wrote:Which bike to choose would depend on each individual. How you ride, what you want to achieve as well as the area you live in.
C60 for me is more of an all around bike you take when you want to just ride without thinking about time and result. Mind you, i am not saying that it is not a frame that you can't go fast with. It is just a tad bit more comfortable than dogma f8.
Dogma F8 is something you take to ride when you only want to concentrate on the result. This frame just gives you something extra whenever you push on the pedals, either on the straight or climbing. This beast always pushes you to give more. My best time always come on the dogma.
That is my two cents. Either way you wont make any mistake choosing any one of them as each of them is a very good bike. Feel free to ask me anything you want to know.
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Ok, somehow we shaped the ride characteristics of both bike, and i think i have idea how they ride..
Yesterday i asked friends to make some photo of my position on my FP3, and since i have long femurs (my other friend is like 5 cm taller then im, same bike he have saddle in the center, and i have all the way back to get knee over pedal axle. And even in that position im a few mm in the front), that can be a bit of problem with proper sizing and better geometry that can handle that.
Anyway, i need to travel right now, when i get back i'll post few of that pictures to try to figure out which will fit me best in term of geometry.
Thank u guys for all ur posts and help u providing me, i have much better idea how they ride now.
BTW, how is Dogma in term of long rides? One of my favourite riding here is 150 km, and sometimes i have riden 200 km (roads here are pretty rough).
Last year there was a concert in town located 170 km from my City. My gf went there with car, i rode longer route with bike (204 km), and after some rest and shower we went to a concert, and i feel ok enough and not that tired (ok, instead of returning back with bike 2 days later, i decided to get back with car
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So as u can see on FP3 it's ok for this kind of riding. How would be on Dogma? Is it still comfortable enough for this kind of riding? (150 km - 200 km at once), Or on Dogma long riding like this would be punishment?
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