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Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:56 pm
by artray

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:22 pm
by ms6073
There was a thread about this after Bike Rumor first posted about the Tiso 12sp wireless RD back in October.

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:22 pm
by Weenie

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Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:40 pm
by nathanong87
worst promo vid ever.

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:54 pm
by bikedoc
so its cold enough to need a face mask but not cold enough for gloves, very odd

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:40 am
by Arky
A small company like Tiso having the balls to do something like this is commendable. Very cool. Hopefully they can get to stampings, forgings and molded parts after the first round of products as a means for cost reduction.

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:41 am
by KLabs
+1

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:46 am
by hjb1000
Arky wrote:A small company like Tiso having the balls to do something like this is commendable. Very cool. Hopefully they can get to stampings, forgings and molded parts after the first round of products as a means for cost reduction.


Agreed, I think it's great they are giving this a shot. Kind of like the 'rawness' of the product too.

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:48 am
by CarpetFibre
That promo vid is absolute balls but the product looks incredible!

Compatible with all other groupsets and self-adjusts to them? 150g for 11-29 cassette? easy set-up? takes AAA batteries? Promises to be cheaper than other electronic groupsets? If it works well then this is the stuff of dreams...

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:24 pm
by Stolichnaya
Can anyone tell if the system allows for multiple cog jumps at one shift? (i.e. like Campy: push the thumb shifter, hold it down and travel down the cassette in one shot, or three gears + up).

As discussed before, who will be the first to maliciously hack this system to produce ghost shifts on competitor's bikes? Oh, the possibilities.

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:41 pm
by CharlesM
The system is a single gear at a time but reasonably quick.

The first production run is done. Available Feb.

It does not "self adjust" to a different gearing spacing. You need to reset the system and choose the different wheel, but it's not a difficult thing to do.

Bluetooth is fairly reasonably secure as a transmition standard. "Simple" to hack is relative to the hacker, but it's not going to be effected any more than cellular / wi-fi / etc is. It won't readily accept pairing on the fly with other devices.

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:35 pm
by BeeBee30
Looks awesome but I find it strange that they say in the video its radio wireless or Bluetooth, haven't they decided? Surely If they are ready to release it must be finalised? It can't be both methods can it? And what free hub does it use?

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:16 am
by KLabs
BeeBee30 wrote:Looks awesome but I find it strange that they say in the video its radio wireless or Bluetooth, haven't they decided? Surely If they are ready to release it must be finalised? It can't be both methods can it? And what free hub does it use?

It might be both radio wireless and Bluetooth.

Perhaps, just perhaps, we won't need to replace our 10spd hubs/wheels with 12spd hubs/wheels ...

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:16 am
by Privateer
Stolichnaya wrote:As discussed before, who will be the first to maliciously hack this system to produce ghost shifts on competitor's bikes? Oh, the possibilities.


Probably the same person who fills his tyres with sealant then throws tacks on the course. It's not something I'd lose sleep over.

Mods: can we please merge the two Tiso threads?

Re: Tiso 12 speed electronic is here

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:16 am
by Weenie

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